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The falling price of a TV set

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Re: The falling price of a TV set

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> If you buy a new TV today, you’re most likely buying a “smart” TV with software from either the manufacturer itself or a third-party company like Roku. The cut of the advertising revenue from those pre-installed video channels is big business for actual TV makers, as is the business of selling user viewing data and other information to marketers.

Is there a good open source smart tv firmware?

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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I know this isn't your central point, but you should know that a speaker can be used as a microphone, and vice versa. Granted, a speaker won't be a very good microphone, but it is possible one could design an exploit that uses this capability to record audio and send the results off to who knows where.

Assuming the chipset support jack restasking (most don't).

It's unlikely that a basic Bluetooth speaker would even have an ADC to switch to, not to mention speakers without Chromecast-like streaming capabilities probably only have some tiny real-time operating system.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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If you look at a chart of TV prices over 50-80 years, this has always been a trend [1]. Institutes using this as an argument for declining poverty are missing the point that while most goods have gone down in cost over the years, services (childcare) and things of value (education) have gone up substantially [2]. [1]: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-the-incredib... [2]: Elizabeth Warren's classic "Twi…

But how much cheaper is it to learn a profitable skill? In the 1980s I’d have had a much harder time learning to code. I learned essentially for free. A traditional, hand holding education is more expensive, but information is virtually free.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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Yes. Sort of. You can buy a commercial display, the kind used for digital signs. But, those probably cost 10x more than a consumer TV.

Not really, to be honest. I don't consider this 43" 5000:1 2160p 350cd/m^2 screen ( https://iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-le4340uhs-b1/ ) to have a bad price @ 580 EUR. Unfortunately it seems to be limited by 8bit sRGB when it comes to using that contrast. They do have HDR screens though.

Wow maybe this is a US to EU mismatch but I just got a 4K 65” HDR screen for $500 including tax? That seems very expensive by my standards, as $500 ~= €448 and €580 ~= $650

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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> If you buy a new TV today, you’re most likely buying a “smart” TV with software from either the manufacturer itself or a third-party company like Roku. The cut of the advertising revenue from those pre-installed video channels is big business for actual TV makers, as is the business of selling user viewing data and other information to marketers. Is there a good open source smart tv firmware?

1. Buy any affordable TV with a good panel

2. Disable WiFi on the TV or block it at the network level

3. Install Kodi on an old laptop or RPi. Serve cold over HDMI & prosper.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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post #85

> If you buy a new TV today, you’re most likely buying a “smart” TV with software from either the manufacturer itself or a third-party company like Roku. The cut of the advertising revenue from those pre-installed video channels is big business for actual TV makers, as is the business of selling user viewing data and other information to marketers. Is there a good open source smart tv firmware?

1. Buy any affordable TV with a good panel 2. Disable WiFi on the TV or block it at the network level 3. Install Kodi on an old laptop or RPi. Serve cold over HDMI & prosper.

> 3. Install Kodi on an old laptop or RPi. Serve cold over HDMI & prosper.

4. Make sure it's an Rpi4, or the laptop's not too old, if you plan to play H.265 (HEVC) content, so you've got hardware decoding for it.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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A few years ago my parents walked in to a Toyota dealership to buy a new Camry with cash. They were talked into financing it, bought it, then got home and realized they should have just paid cash. The next day they went back to the dealership to pay it off and the guy who gave them the loan was a huge asshole to them the whole time.

Why would they go to the dealership to pay the loan off?

There’s usually a grace period to return the car.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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Not really, to be honest. I don't consider this 43" 5000:1 2160p 350cd/m^2 screen ( https://iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-le4340uhs-b1/ ) to have a bad price @ 580 EUR. Unfortunately it seems to be limited by 8bit sRGB when it comes to using that contrast. They do have HDR screens though.

Wow maybe this is a US to EU mismatch but I just got a 4K 65” HDR screen for $500 including tax? That seems very expensive by my standards, as $500 ~= €448 and €580 ~= $650

Can confirm, low-end prices for HDR-capable non-OLED (so, worse blacks than higher-end screens but still much better than most of what was typical, say, 10 years ago) 4K screen @ 65" is like $500. Under $400 for 55" and same quality.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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> If you buy a new TV today, you’re most likely buying a “smart” TV with software from either the manufacturer itself or a third-party company like Roku. The cut of the advertising revenue from those pre-installed video channels is big business for actual TV makers, as is the business of selling user viewing data and other information to marketers. Is there a good open source smart tv firmware?

1. Buy any affordable TV with a good panel 2. Disable WiFi on the TV or block it at the network level 3. Install Kodi on an old laptop or RPi. Serve cold over HDMI & prosper.

What I'd like to do is install Kodi on the TV.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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Because the spying and advertising isn't worth that much?

Printers didn’t need the spying?

Printers get you on the ink, and the terrible driver software, and maybe an ink subscription. And the support contract.
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