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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#81

wish they made double or triple decker capsule hotel style beds for long flights.

They do, you just have to be flying the plane to get access to them :)

Check out crew rest areas: https://www.airlinereporter.com/2014/10/inside-look-crew-res...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#82

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If that's your main issue, you're very lucky... I wish I could worry about my posterior, but the constant pressure on the knees by the seat in front and the desperate search for a position where my legs will fit keep all my attention. Sleeping is a pipe dream, of course. When I see headlines like this I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Airlines need a seat pitch regulation. (and before anyone mentions that I could…

How tall are you?

197 cm (6' 5"). Very tall, although there are still people who have it worse...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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What I'd rather see is designs that make the middle seat more palatable. There are more aircraft with 3 seats on each side now. It's not perfect, but ideas that make the middle seat better via dedicated armrests, or offsetting it slightly back, would be welcome. One supplier with some decent ideas: https://www.airlineseats.biz/for-passengers

The middle seat staggered lets people use the same armrest at different spots. That's a good idea

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/1fe40a_b68668609cbc4cf59b...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#84

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

As someone who doesn't sleep much on planes, the benefit of turning off all of the video that my sleeping neighbors are playing is significant.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Can’t they just put “are you still there” button like Netflix? Would be cheaper and less creepy.

... coupled with a movement sensor built into the sitting surface.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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I'd go for a bunk-bed cabin myself. I wouldn't mind lying on my back all flight with limited headroom if I could read a book and my knees weren't being jammed by the seat in front of me.

Yes! I can’t understand why we can’t have this, like a sleeper bus. If I were to guess it’s probably because of aircraft evacuation and/or safety standards. Or maybe it’s just not straightforward to make bunk beds fit with potential need for more aisles, or dealing with the cylindrical shape of the aircraft.

My guess is some combination of tradition / not having enough people able-bodied to climb into the top bunk / evacuation speed. Pure speculation, though.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Two years ago they would have been finding a way to add blockchain.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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The price per square inch of human space has probably stayed the same after inflation adjustment. People on average are just more likely to buy cheaper seats than more room, so by natural selection we get smaller seats.

Fares have come down in absolute dollar terms (let alone inflation adjusted) over the last twenty years, while economy seat sizes have barely changed. What has changed is yield management — airlines have got much better at flying with as few empty seats as possible. So the main thing that has gone down to allow prices to decrease in real terms is your chance of getting an empty seat next to you.

Economy seat sizes haven't changed? Do you have a source for that? I'm including leg room when I say size has decreased. I honestly don't know but would be surprised, common wisdom is that leg room is much less over last 30 years.
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