The author hasn’t spent much time in Utah, if he didn’t split it out.
The article aggregates. But outside of Salt Lake City, what did the author miss? Nevada is different from Las Vegas as well. I was impressed with the north/south divide in Missouri and the east/west divide in Tennessee. However, I wouldn't put Santa Barbara, Los Angeles and San Diego in El Norte. The author may have had better reasons though.
The eleven nations of the United States and their cultures
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#82There is some genetic basis for this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/08/albions-seed-genotyped...
I never thought it had its basis in genetics, though that is pretty interesting. At least from what I remember in reading Albion's seeds it was the result of distinct cultures. I think the division can be pretty broad. I live in Boston, and I've sometimes heard comparisons of North Shore vs South Shore to be culturally rooted in Puritans settling North, vs Pilgrims settling in South. Generally genetically the same bu…
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by “weakness as a federal state”? In terms of division of power between states and federal, the Canadian federal government has much more power than the US federal government. After I learned more about it, I was quite surprised at the level of autonomy that US states have.
US states are (in most respects) theoretically more powerful than Canadian provinces, and this does show up, for example, in the criminal code being federal legislation in Canada, but state legislation in the US (though the US federal government also gets to enact criminal law, which seems rather bizarre). However, in practice, Canada provinces tend to be more powerful than US states, perhaps because there are fewer…
Yeah, that's super annoying. For an example here in the states: "In 1984, Congress passed the National Minimum Drinking Age Act, which required states to raise their ages for purchase and public possession to 21 by October 1986 or lose 10% of their federal highway funds" [0].
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._history_of_alcohol_minimu...
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#84It's interesting to see how canned phrases to represent certain concepts can become nonsensical when put together : > The Deep South was established by English slave lords from Barbados and was styled as a West Indies-style slave society, Woodard notes. It has a very rigid social structure and fights against government regulation that threatens individual liberty. Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Texas, Georgia, and So…
The author is obviously only taking about white people there. You’d have a different culture representing black folks. (I’d love to see if white culture is even dominate there or only concentrated in those with power).
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I am in South Louisiana as well, close to New Orleans. Grandfather is full Cajun, grew up in Cutoff, with his father being the captain of a shrimp boat. One of my goals next year is to learn French. Do you speak French?
That's cool. Je parle un peu de francais, et vous? Parisien, pas cadien, malheursement.
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A better analogy would be to the lower, mostly independent rungs of a feudal society like the English yeoman. Antebellum, the general attitude in the South was that even the poorest person was entitled to live his life as he saw fit on his land, and should be regarded as equal to a rich plantation owner with employees and slaves. There was generally no bureaucracy that could force a poor person to lose his land, make…
> even the poorest person was entitled to live his life as he saw fit on his land .. but by implication non-landowners were second class citizens, and nonwhite people were unpersons? > Social customs somewhat enforced neighborly behavior in place of regulation Including lynching.
Yes, but remember that half of the adult population everywhere was a second-class citizen simply because of their gender. The idea that some people don't deserve as many rights as others isn't an aberration we can lay at the feet of the plantation owners.
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That's cool. Je parle un peu de francais, et vous? Parisien, pas cadien, malheursement.
No, not yet. It will most likely be Parisien as well, since learning Cajun French would make the journey much more difficult.
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#88Upstate NY is not Yankeedom. It is Greater Appalachia. Also, many of the Midwest states are less Yankeedom and more Heartland. Also, Dallas is Greater Appalachia and not Deep South yet Houston is Deep South and not New France? Also, LA is El Norte and not the Left Coast? Was this map based on 200 year old data?
Dutchess County is Greater Appalachia, but I don't know that I'd say the industrial northern part is. Colorado as a Far West state makes little sense- where the people live is mostly Left Coast, with El Norte in the Southern part of the state.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
A better analogy would be to the lower, mostly independent rungs of a feudal society like the English yeoman. Antebellum, the general attitude in the South was that even the poorest person was entitled to live his life as he saw fit on his land, and should be regarded as equal to a rich plantation owner with employees and slaves. There was generally no bureaucracy that could force a poor person to lose his land, make…
> the poorest person was entitled to live his life as he saw fit on his land, and should be regarded as equal to a rich plantation owner with employees and slaves I think this describes neither medieval Europe nor the antebellum US South. Certainly in Europe, a king needed no 'bureaucracy' to take anything he wanted from anyone at any time. Lords could largely do the same with impunity, since they had the power to do…
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No, not yet. It will most likely be Parisien as well, since learning Cajun French would make the journey much more difficult.
There are some mild differences in vocabulary and pronunciation (the Cajun 'R' is way more difficult) but they're mutually intelligible.