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Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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More then just people in the US use iPhones?

Outside the US the iPhone is not a common choice. It does exist, but most people don't have one. This makes Apple's social lock-in markedly less effective.

While in RoW iPhones are definitely luxury items, by this very property about half (or more) of people whose decisions matter would have one, and you often wouldn’t want to use technology that doesn’t work on your bosses’ phone.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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Statistically most likely from a ≈25-100mb US connection while developed countries the world over have had gigabit for a decade... Our internet is quite a bit behind because telcos in this country don't have to meaningfully compete. Plenty of legislation has cemented their market dominance through artificial (and unnecessary) barriers to entry with practically no accountability for shoddy service and infrastructure.…

Gigabit is not important, remember when you could finally buy a 10MW electrical feed for your home and how much it improved your quality of life... Right that didn't happen because it is not important at all. Running 100W to homes means people can have electric light, 1kW means they can have motorised appliances, and 10kW makes cooking and heating practical... But 10MW? You had no need for it, so it didn't happen. Li…

I strongly disagree, gigabit is especially useful for concurrent users and getting the occasional big download out of the way fast so you can move on to other tasks.

Examples:

* Multiple users watching youtube/netflix at 4K * Downloading an update to a game so you can play with your friends in a reasonable amount of time * Uploading youtube videos * Pulling in packages from a package manager, or updating your OS

It is absolutely important for the home, just not to _you_.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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post #17

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I don't really care who sets it up, but since everyone that is currently on facebook chat (be it Messenger or WhatsApp) is also a customer of some mobile carrier, having the carriers create an alternative is not a completely ridiculous idea when we want to make the chat infrastructure distributed/federated. I'd be happy to MMS my uncle if it didn't cost like two euros per 640x480 picture; RCS seems to be the way I'll…

> I'd be happy to MMS my uncle if it didn't cost like two euros per 640x480 picture Wow, where are you living? I haven't paid to send an MMS in nearly ten years...

It's the same in the UK. My phone bill is normally £12 a month - recently it was maybe £1 more. I checked what had happened - I'd accidentally sent a single mms to someone by including a link to google maps in a text message which got expanded into an image.

There's a reason WhatsApp is basically the only messaging people do here - carrier based messaging is an exploitative money trap.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#85
post #33

Why this when applications like Telegram, Signal, etc. already exist? That ship has sailed…

There's arguably a market for commoditised secure messaging/queueing, baked into the standard radio silicon, that's a few steps ahead of sms.. Finance, email, voicemail, etc. P2P.

I read your comment as "There's arguably a market for compromised messaging/queueing…" And there is by repressive governments every!

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#86
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside the US the iPhone is not a common choice. It does exist, but most people don't have one. This makes Apple's social lock-in markedly less effective.

While in RoW iPhones are definitely luxury items, by this very property about half (or more) of people whose decisions matter would have one, and you often wouldn’t want to use technology that doesn’t work on your bosses’ phone.

Is this a troll? You think half of the world's decision makers are in the US?

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

#87
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While in RoW iPhones are definitely luxury items, by this very property about half (or more) of people whose decisions matter would have one, and you often wouldn’t want to use technology that doesn’t work on your bosses’ phone.

Is this a troll? You think half of the world's decision makers are in the US?

I think he meant that in 3-rd world countries iPhones are luxury items bought by rich people in position of power.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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Statistically most likely from a ≈25-100mb US connection while developed countries the world over have had gigabit for a decade... Our internet is quite a bit behind because telcos in this country don't have to meaningfully compete. Plenty of legislation has cemented their market dominance through artificial (and unnecessary) barriers to entry with practically no accountability for shoddy service and infrastructure.…

Its on par with banking. On my trip to Europe in 2009 major cards were contacless cards (VISA). Just when I got my USA Visa chip card year ago I visit Europe again and most merchants were concerned why I still have a chip (“it wont work your card probably already expired. Oh wow chip card still working, amazing”). By 2010 you were able to wire money between banks at zero or close to zero fee inly using app on your ph…

Contactless is capped if you're not using Apple / Google Pay. You need the chip for anything over the cap.

Re: The successor of SMS has already been hacked

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post #88

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Its on par with banking. On my trip to Europe in 2009 major cards were contacless cards (VISA). Just when I got my USA Visa chip card year ago I visit Europe again and most merchants were concerned why I still have a chip (“it wont work your card probably already expired. Oh wow chip card still working, amazing”). By 2010 you were able to wire money between banks at zero or close to zero fee inly using app on your ph…

Contactless is capped if you're not using Apple / Google Pay. You need the chip for anything over the cap.

Withdrew $1,500 from Bank of Millenium ATM using contactless card and BLIK in Europe. If by Cap we define I could not withdrew it all then that's correct.
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