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> One of the workers set up notifications to receive emails detailing the work and whereabouts of other employees without their knowledge or consent. This is shady/creepy. There is no need to know when and where a colleague is every hour, every day. You shouldn’t be allowed to do this. I’m glad an employee who does this is getting fired because I wouldn’t feel safe around them. My calendar is public, but that doesn’t…
Where are you quoting that from? I just string searched it in the article and got nothing.
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Well before going full conspiracy, I believe a lot of tech people are anti union themselves compared to some other fields. I'm not one of them but as long as there is demand like right now for programmers, the conditions and pay is good.
> for programmers, the conditions and pay is good. Whatever happened with that anti-poaching agreement the big SV companies had? Because it seems to me the pay and conditions would be a lot better in a truly free market.
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Is the SA acronym that commonly known? I had to search it, and for those also not in the know it's the Sturmabteilung, more commonly known as Storm Troopers. Also I'm pro-union and not averse to laying out links between fascism and corporate capitalism, but I think you'd need to add a bit more argument here beyond 'the Nazis also did this so it's definitely bad'.
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Iirc, unions typically insist on a strict payscale/structure combining legible factors like seniority, position, etc. Would they want this. People keep saying this but it doesn’t have to be true e.g. Hollywood unions cover everyone from extras to stars.
Agreed, that's why I ask. Industrial and administrative unions do usually seek legibility in payscales. What would the h unions demand? I'm trying to see past the nonspecific of "unions" to a specific union movement and what it could want (other than the union itself).
Access to highly-skilled negotiators for your next review/salary negotiation.
No "crunch time", or at least limit it and require reasonable levels of overtime for it.
Protection for various kinds of paid leave.
Protection from being fired for political reasons—and, more generally, access to highly-competent employment lawyers in the case of legal conflicts between you and the company.
That's just off the top of my head.
There has been quite a lot of noise on HN about this, and many of the other posts have disappeared, perhaps in an attempt to stop the whole front page getting swamped by this story. You can find the other links here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=0&prefix=fal... I wouldn't normally bother, but the medium article is about the least balanced of the lot. As far as I can tell, the protesters weren't fir…
Private political agendas? Who are they, the oxymoron party?
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Labor should try to change regulation/policy to better help people live while trying to find a new job and/or simply unemployed. Forcing companies to employ someone they don't want is not a winning strategy on the long term. (Though worrying about poor poor companies is a bit premature considering how abysmal worker protections are in the US.)
Ultimately unions are representing an interest group, somewhat separate from the company and itself. ...it arguably make sense to go for job security. Security is valuable... to their members. If it's also popular with members, why not put it on the table? Even if it does hurt long term profits/success, profits are the primary interest of the other party to the negotiation... the firm/employer/shareholder interest. I…
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It was never a thing to begin with. Anyone that believed it was only deluding themselves.
Ah, I wouldn't be so cynical. Most people start with good intention. Then they get power and power corrupts.
They are composed by a group of people, each with their own set of goals and morals, which isn't the same thing.
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as long as there is demand like right now for programmers, the conditions and pay is good. The time to assert your rights is when you have leverage, if you wait until you need those rights because you have no leverage it’s too late.
Unionization could very plausibly weaken the US tech sector. It's happened before (US Steel, the US passenger rail service, high-volume manufacturing, the Big Three auto makers).
This article is ranked 16th on HN first page right now, and it has 80 points, was posted 4 hours ago, and has 16 comments. A different article [1] is ranked 8th on HN right now, and it has 31 points, was also posted 4 hours ago and it has 18 comments. They were both posted about the same time, they have the same number of comments, but the article that has significantly more points is ranked significantly lower. If I…
I once posted a story about Google and privacy violations and it reached #1 spot on HN but after about 30 min at the top spot it suddenly moved to page 2. I got the impression that Google somehow has power over ranking here. It could be through reporting by Google employees. But the title of the post was edited too, along with the demotion.
There was a recent post showing the version control history of HN article tiles. That's one step in the right direction.