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Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Something something Steve Jobs

See, Steve Jobs could get away with this because he was exceptionally good at making the right choices, at least in the later part of his life. When others try to emulate him, it doesn't go as well.

Yes. For instance, Apple's spent the last couple of years emulating his visionary design decisions, focused specifically on "get thinner and thinner until you can't actually do your job anymore".

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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I don't understand the point of electron for applications whose functionality is entirely dependent on being online anyway. At that point, just use a browser as it's one fewer item to install. Is the Electron version of Slack capable of anything beyond the browser version?

You can include native code in Electron apps. I am not sure it is actually needed in any of the messaging Electron apps (Slack, Discord), but the capability is there. My favorite Electron app is Balena Etcher. It is "dd" but uses 200MB of RAM. It is AMAZING.

Hmm, that doesn't seem totally fair - it's 'dd' but with guardrails so that schoolchildren who want to flash raspbian onto an SD card don't accidentally overwrite their boot disk.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

#83

I don't use slack so the issue isn't on my radar, but if this has made it to the top of HN.... I guess Slack reeeealy effed up.

I think where they really messed up is how they've been responding to people about it. They're literally telling people that they'll listen to feedback but also that they won't change anything, all in the same response. The way they treat their customers is really going to hurt them in the long run, especially as other solutions come out (Microsoft Teams already has significantly more monthly users than Slack does).

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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Some users prefer having a separate app with its own icon and window instead of another tab in a browser. It keeps things Separate

This is all I want from an electron app, and is basically the main reason I really want PWAs to take off.

You can do this already for slack in chromium browsers. Click Menu -> More Tools -> Create Shortcut. The app will run in an app window and NOT a tabbed browser window, just like a PWA, with it's own dock icon and cmd-tab icon.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

#86

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You can just create a shortcut with a custom icon that opens slack in a new browser window then.

Missing the point. I don't want it in my browser. My browser is used for reference materials and things like that. My chat app is its own separate thing and easily switched to.

You can do this already for slack in chromium browsers. Click Menu -> More Tools -> Create Shortcut. The app will run in an app window and NOT a tabbed browser window, just like a PWA, with it's own dock icon and cmd-tab icon.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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post #36

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I don't understand the point of electron for applications whose functionality is entirely dependent on being online anyway. At that point, just use a browser as it's one fewer item to install. Is the Electron version of Slack capable of anything beyond the browser version?

Some users prefer having a separate app with its own icon and window instead of another tab in a browser. It keeps things Separate

You can do this already for slack in chromium browsers. Click Menu -> More Tools -> Create Shortcut. The app will run in an app window and NOT a tabbed browser window, just like a PWA, with it's own dock icon and cmd-tab icon.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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You can include native code in Electron apps. I am not sure it is actually needed in any of the messaging Electron apps (Slack, Discord), but the capability is there. My favorite Electron app is Balena Etcher. It is "dd" but uses 200MB of RAM. It is AMAZING.

> You can include native code in Electron apps. I am not sure it is actually needed in any of the messaging Electron apps (Slack, Discord), but the capability is there. Discord has options for streaming your game to others, identifying running processes to display games as your status, downloading and launching games, and displaying a chat overlay on top of external game processes. Some of those can be accomplished i…

That is all available in WebRTC.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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post #56

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Try quitting Slack and just running this from the console. It worked for me: export SLACK_DEVELOPER_MENU=true open /Applications/Slack.app

Instead of using open you can just run the binary inside Slack.app directory: SLACK_DEVELOPER_MENU=true /Applications/Slack.app/Contents/MacOS/Slack

That's not a great idea. If you don't use open, the app won't show up in the Finder app switcher.

Re: Disable new Slack WYSIWYG editor with this bookmarklet

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post #56

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Try quitting Slack and just running this from the console. It worked for me: export SLACK_DEVELOPER_MENU=true open /Applications/Slack.app

Instead of using open you can just run the binary inside Slack.app directory: SLACK_DEVELOPER_MENU=true /Applications/Slack.app/Contents/MacOS/Slack

That only works for the Bourne shell. Using `env` is more portable.
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