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U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Post by garren »

stevenhubertron wrote: post #36
nknealk wrote: post #19

I highly recommend folks listen to recent episodes of Ben Thompson’s exponent podcast where he discusses TikTok and its influence in the USA. He makes the point that US consumers become subject to Chinese censorship policies when using the platform while China outright bans or heavily restricts American companies from operating (eg google search, Facebook).

I tried to find it but failed. Do you happen to remember the date it aired?

Based on references to TikTok here, https://stratechery.com/ it looks like it’s ep176 https://exponent.fm/episode-176-the-second-estate-era/

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Post by hitpointdrew »

eanzenberg wrote: post #76
influx wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an area where both the right and left can find agreement.

Doesn't 1 side support globalism politically though?

Don't you mean 2 sides? Both parties have gone off the globalist cliff.

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Post by kick »

president wrote: post #41
nostromo wrote: post #30

I would support a wholesale ban on Chinese acquisitions of American companies until American companies are allowed to acquire Chinese companies (or otherwise operate in China). These ridiculous double standards from China are not free trade, and we should stop pretending it is.

Most people probably realize it. What we need is for the American CEOs, financial elite, members of government that have investments in China to invest in their own country rather than in a lop-sided trade economy that doesn't allow free flow of money back to the US.

What incentive do they have on their side to do that? Ignoring the moral argument, which I agree with, there isn't much financial benefit that comes from that, and very few people who make it that high up the chain seem to be influenced by moral arguments.

Your argument veers unreasonably so into nationalism; there's no reason they shouldn't instead start investing money in Europe, or one of the dozens of other countries that could use US funds well in Asia.

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Post by fma »

spectramax wrote: post #61
bamboozled wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s the point here though? America et al also don’t like certain things being published on social media and try stop it from existing on those platforms too.

I can post on Facebook that I disagree with president Trump and he is a liar, try doing the same in China. (Please don't take my comment as a suggestion about President Trump, just trying to make a point).

Not sure why you're being downvoted, but in my recent trip to China, I discussed Trump with many local Chinese. Obviously the tradewar is a major topic. I said I share and comment on articles that criticize Trump all the time on Facebook.

They were surprised you could do that...

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Post by fruzz »

nknealk wrote: post #19

I highly recommend folks listen to recent episodes of Ben Thompson’s exponent podcast where he discusses TikTok and its influence in the USA. He makes the point that US consumers become subject to Chinese censorship policies when using the platform while China outright bans or heavily restricts American companies from operating (eg google search, Facebook).

I mean, as a Canadian consumer using American social media platforms, we're subject to American censorship policies. Tumblr / Facebook / YouTube being most notable in their filtering of LGBT content and suspending accounts of LGBT users, because of the American governments stance on human sexuality. This argument of who censors makes sense for Americans, but it's more about picking your poison for people from other countries.

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Post by justinzollars »

TikTok is actually a great app. When I was a kid in the 00's my friends and I used to carry around a video camera to make music videos. With TikTok you can do it with your cell phone.

They beat SnapChat, FB and Instagram on experience.

Censorship is something serious to consider, but these are mainly kids making music videos. They aren't using it to organize campaigns.

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Post by smhenderson »

the-dude wrote: post #73
spectramax wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can post on Facebook that I disagree with president Trump and he is a liar, try doing the same in China. (Please don't take my comment as a suggestion about President Trump, just trying to make a point).

I bet nobody in China would bat an eye if you called Trump a liar. There is even an old soviet joke about this.

Was going to reply to the parent with the joke and then didn't bother. Since you mentioned it though...

An American tells a Russian that the United States is so free he can stand in front of the White House and yell, “To hell with Ronald Reagan.” The Russian replies, “That’s nothing. I can stand in front of the Kremlin and yell, ‘To hell with Ronald Reagan,’ too.”

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Post by [deleted] »

iwantagrinder wrote: post #40
CydeWeys wrote: post #23

I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.

I'd venture to guess the vast majority don't know it's a Chinese social network

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