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Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by bitL »

yardie wrote: post #28
bcheung wrote: post #4

I have the Mavic Pro and have issues with the wind carrying it away and not being able to navigate where I want. Is a smaller drone going to even more issue with wind or have they improved this?

The wind problem is physics. You can't fix that with software. At 250g this thing is a leaf. I've flown P4P, Mavic Pro, and Spark. Only the big, heavy P4P was stable in strong winds. Even with the larger cross-section the bigger motors in the P4P make a remarkable difference.

Phantom line seems to be killed, DJI doesn't care, so welcome to unstable drones in the future. I still can't understand why did they kill their best drone series a grandpa could fly?

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by SpikeDad »

bsamuels wrote: post #49

I want to know how big the motors are going to be compared to the Mavic Pro. I've flown 5" race quads that were 10mph. Traditionally DJI drones have had very underpowered motors so they can get those high flight time numbers; seeing the 30 minute flight time quote here doesn't give me much confidence that it will fly well with anything other than perfect wind conditions. I can't wait to tear one apart and see what ki…

It's not a race drone. That's a completely different audience. What do you mean underpowered? Compared to what?

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by singingboyo »

rtkwe wrote: post #79
tibbon wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Vespa working outside the rules/spirit of law of state DMVs by selling scooters that are 1cc under the requirement for motorcycle registration/tax/license? It seems like a pretty good analogy to me, with the main difference being a federal/state authority. I'm really not sure; and I could see arguments either way.

DJI is selling a heavier battery that does put it over the 250g limit so it's a bit greyer than the vespa version.

Are they?

I see 249g/199g (JP) for takeoff weight in the specs, which suggests to me that with the 100g battery it's 249g grams, and with the 50g battery it's 199g (presumably in Japan, which seems to be a 200g limit where others are 250g).

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by ctdonath »

dogma1138 wrote: post #25
forgone wrote: post #19

what's the legality of it in the UK?

Considering the registration requirement in the UK is to register all drones above 250g in weight this one seems to have been designed as a loophole. As it weight 249g you don't have to register with the CAA and as long as you keep it under 400ft altitude and within 150ft from other people and private property you can fly it anywhere where there isn't a local limitation and it's not restricted airspace. In places whe…

Complying with a deliberately & precisely worded law is not exploiting a loophole, it's complying with the law.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by vannevar »

sneak wrote: post #15

As someone who wants hardware that does what I instruct it to after I have purchased it, regardless of the manufacturer's wishes, I don't think I can support buying DJI's otherwise-excellent products any longer. The firmware updates and activation locks and flight restrictions imposed by the DJI Go app are too onerous. If I buy a tool, and the tool now belongs to me, the manufacturer attempting to restrict my use of…

I upvoted you, not because I agree, but because you raised a reasonable point that clearly generated some intelligent debate. I think the problem is that modern technology has resulted in cheaply available "tools" (to use your term) that have the capacity to cause great and irreparable harm to large numbers of other people (see the comments regarding drones and airplanes, for instance), and consequently must be proactively restricted, not merely regulated after the fact with criminal or civil penalties. Such is the nature of the modern world that produced technologies like the drone. We can no longer afford to leave the use of these technologies up to the good judgment of individuals, because there will always be a minority who can't or won't exercise it.

The iPhone is another question entirely, I agree with you there.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by neogodless »

folli wrote: post #57

I feel like an old man, when I say this (and maybe I am), but I'm starting to feel increasingly annoyed by drones in public. You hear the whirring of drones on a nice day by the lake, and sometimes even on some more popular mountain peaks here in Switzerland. For me it's almost as annoying as a mosquito in your bedroom.

I live in the Northeastern United States. I've seen drones at attractions such as Centralia and Rickett's Glen State Park (waterfall hike.) I find them really annoying as well.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by wil421 »

folli wrote: post #57

I feel like an old man, when I say this (and maybe I am), but I'm starting to feel increasingly annoyed by drones in public. You hear the whirring of drones on a nice day by the lake, and sometimes even on some more popular mountain peaks here in Switzerland. For me it's almost as annoying as a mosquito in your bedroom.

It’s just like anything else that is noisy, people need to learn to be respectful. Last time I was at the beach a guy would wake up early to fly his drone so he wouldn’t disturb people.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by leetcrew »

SpikeDad wrote: post #82
bsamuels wrote: post #49

I want to know how big the motors are going to be compared to the Mavic Pro. I've flown 5" race quads that were 10mph. Traditionally DJI drones have had very underpowered motors so they can get those high flight time numbers; seeing the 30 minute flight time quote here doesn't give me much confidence that it will fly well with anything other than perfect wind conditions. I can't wait to tear one apart and see what ki…

It's not a race drone. That's a completely different audience. What do you mean underpowered? Compared to what?

possibly to hold position in wind?

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by wil421 »

maxcan wrote: post #39

Oh man, been waiting for this. Unfortunately, no active track :( Still conflicted on spending $1000 on the new skydio for what would mostly be a toy for me.

The skydio 2 says the quantities are limited. I’m not sure if I can invest $1000 in something that could be out of support in a couple years.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by roywiggins »

cookiecaper wrote: post #58
post_break wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how all laws work though. Rifle minimum barrel is 16" so they make 16" barrels. Wifi can only put out X watts max, they put out the maximum by law. There are no ethics in following a laws minimum or maximum.

It's a great reason to exercise caution when setting up rules and definitions. Whatever distinction gets established, however arbitrary, casts a tint on everything else on either side of it, for better or worse. This is true even in things as routine daily chit-chat and conversation. Think about how often tacitly express your opinion through the way you frame a discussion and how often those environmental cues bias o…

I'll just note that laws and regulations can get struck down for vagueness. If there's no hard rule about what kind of drones are regulated how, then it becomes more burdensome- or even impossible- to know whether you're complying with the law.
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