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Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by dijit »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #73
coldtea wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night. Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. Well, try to talk to people about the US influence, and not just to their neighbors like Tibet, but all around the world. You'll have a fun conversation.

At least they respect international rules, China just ignores them. It's playing bully on a long-term basis, no need to look over the world for "a" example. Just look at all of China's neighboors in international waters.

You're likely being downvoted because the US does not respect international rules.

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by netsharc »

lozenge wrote: post #74
Iv wrote: post #36

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I am wondering, what is the quid pro quo here. I don't like most of these people, but they don't ring to me like the kind of people who could be bribed with a seat at a prestigious university's board.

It is about indoctrinating a mindset or bias rather than a direct quid pro quo. https://theintercept.com/2016/04/15/barack-obama-never-said-...

Damn, whatever you think of his politics, I respect a man who is that introspective!

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by tanilama »

andruby wrote: post #80
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #55

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You have to be brilliant to get into Qinghua. Same is true with MIT. However, having known Chinese students who got offers to both Qinghua and MIT, the choice for them was really a no brainer.

Which one did they chose?

MIT of course

Tsinghua is highly respected and your peers is likely to be better ON AVERAGE than that of MIT. But the faculty and the resources you would be able to access is unmatched from what MIT can offer.

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by tanilama »

ridaj wrote: post #40
socalnate1 wrote: post #20

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This is the only post that matters here. Thanks for providing the proper context to this (non) news.

Yes. The fact that this is considered newsy enough to make it to the front page tells us more about the fever pitch China paranoia in these parts than about the actual news itself.

This news is from a highly opinionated Taiwan website. They had a narrative to push with anything they write.

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by Iv »

enriquto wrote: post #76
Iv wrote: post #65

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Yes maybe, but I don't see how having a seat at a university helps that.

the seat does not help these CEOs, it helps China. They accept the (public) seat in exchange for (hidden) access.

Oh I see! That makes sense...

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by netsharc »

willis936 wrote: post #19
pbreit wrote: post #2

That's...weird. Of all the boards Cook could serve on, or not on, he chooses to join a random Chinese business school? It's hard not to think there's a quid pro quo going on because it seems completely unnecessary otherwise. Would be great to see Apple make further progress on manufacturing elsewhere.

>It's hard not to think there's a quid pro quo going on "The day before the advisory board meeting, Cook met with Xiao Ya-qing (肖亞慶), director of China’s State Administration for Market Regulation in Beijing. According to the bureau’s official website, "The two sides have conducted in-depth exchanges on expanding investment and business development in China, protecting consumer rights and fulfilling corporate social…

Having recently watched how the Soviet Communist party worked in HBO's Chernobyl (one official showing the scientist the "Hero of the Soviet Union" award that he'll get if he testifies the way the party wants in Vienna), this stinks to me.

But oh well, they didn't make him CEO of Apple to save the world (Hongkong specifically), they made him CEO so he cam maximize profits. Fuck Apple...

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Post by gigatexal »

bigpumpkin wrote: post #17

A selection of other members of this university board: http://www.sem.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/aboutsem/advMem.html Henry M. Paulson, Jr. Chairman, Paulson Institute Former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Former Chairman and CEO, The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. Mary T. Barra Chairman and CEO, General Motors Company Lloyd C. Blankfein Chairman of the Board, The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. Carlos Brito CEO, Anheuser-Busch InBev M…

I mean my original reaction was a bit too knee-jerk. Having some western influence is better than not having any I guess. I stand corrected.

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by xurias »

siruncledrew wrote: post #26
devy wrote: post #22

For the record, School of Economics and Management (SEM) of Tsinghua University has always been having high caliber business leaders, Nobel Laureate, central bank governor and government officials on their board.[1] e.g. In fact, I doubt any school has a better advisory board than that of SEM of Tsinghua's, anywhere in the world. Even Hardvard / MIT / Yale's school dean/provost are on Tsinghua's board. If as an CEO,…

That's what the headline did not elucidate well. People should at least read about Tsinghua University first before automatically judging it for being Chinese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsinghua_University

I mean, the problem isn't the university or the students or the people on the board. It's how the CCP uses its relationships to push its agenda and (incompatible-with-ours) values in an oppressive way on non-Chinese entities. This is just another example of how deep the rot is. (Yes, yes, the US does the "same thing", and I'll care when the US turns into a dictatorship that arbitrarily takes your job, livelihood and family for speaking out against it with zero recourse, transparency or accountability)

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Post by coldtea »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #73
coldtea wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night. Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. Well, try to talk to people about the US influence, and not just to their neighbors like Tibet, but all around the world. You'll have a fun conversation.

At least they respect international rules, China just ignores them. It's playing bully on a long-term basis, no need to look over the world for "a" example. Just look at all of China's neighboors in international waters.

>At least they respect international rules, China just ignores them.

Huh? The US has been famous for not respecting international rules. From toppling the legitimate government of Iran back in the day all the way to the Iraq war and further on (including things like not recognizing the war criminal court, and even threatening it, etc).

Re: Apple CEO becomes chairman of China university board

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Post by NicoJuicy »

tasogare wrote: post #78
NicoJuicy wrote: post #53

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I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night ( 6 hours ago) Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. We can put other places inside of China even on the list ( Taiwan and Hong Kong). The politicians didn't earn their spot. They got placed there by Beijing. And now more and more countries want to remove the debt from China's debts, along the one road,…

> We can put other places inside of China even on the list ( Taiwan and Hong Kong). The politicians didn't earn their spot. They got placed there by Beijing. Taiwan (Republic of China) is not part of China (People Republic of China). It is a different and independent country. Politicians are elected by the citizens, Beijing as nothing to do with that.

I know it's not part of China, China is pushing for it though.

Eg. Airlines have to put Taiwan as a province of China.

You just aknowledged it as a perfect example

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