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I refuse to use a browser with a cryptocurrency attached to it. It feels like the only reason it is being pushed so hard is so BAT holders can make a buck. It might be a great browser but I will always think of it as onecoin with a some chrome tossed in.
Is there an open source version or something of this? I had similar ideas and this is something I would have liked to contribute to. I was thinking of approaching the white listing problem by whitelisting users, I. E. I share my node with friends I trust, and that gets propagated through the network depending on trust levels.
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Have you ever heard of open source browsers like ungoogled chromium or pale moon? They have no incentives and are far better than brave’s, who wants to sell you advertising.
> who wants to sell you advertising. Inaccurate. Brave wants to overhaul advertising: to be able to switch it off completely paying a fee, or earn money by not switching it off (and thus watching the ads), tune it, etc
I refuse to use a browser with a cryptocurrency attached to it. It feels like the only reason it is being pushed so hard is so BAT holders can make a buck. It might be a great browser but I will always think of it as onecoin with a some chrome tossed in.
This seems like a nonsense argument. You prefer a browser that spies on you? Over a cryptocurrency you don’t have to use?
I refuse to use a browser with a cryptocurrency attached to it. It feels like the only reason it is being pushed so hard is so BAT holders can make a buck. It might be a great browser but I will always think of it as onecoin with a some chrome tossed in.
It's opt-in, and the feature can even be completely hidden in the settings. Brave is an awesome browser. Certainly better than Chrome when it comes to privacy.
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And opens the network to abuses Tor was meant to protect against. If proof-of-destination is built into the network then that is a huge step towards invalidating the main benefit of using a VPN -- you don't want someone (your local authority) knowing where you've been. Current VPNs sort-of work by not being in your local jurisdiction. Decentralizing it makes it easier to attack.
It uses zero knowledge proofs, so it doesn't really give anyone on the way proof-of-destination.
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They have nothing in common. Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 is a DNS resolver.
It's a VPN now: https://blog.cloudflare.com/1111-warp-better-vpn/
I refuse to use a browser with a cryptocurrency attached to it. It feels like the only reason it is being pushed so hard is so BAT holders can make a buck. It might be a great browser but I will always think of it as onecoin with a some chrome tossed in.
I already wrote this before in another comment. Basic Attention Token is not a secure cryptographic system. The idea to pay tokens for shown ads cannot be cryptographically secure. There is no known way to have a cryptographically strong "Proof-of-Watch". All that browser does is, when a user watches an ad, it communicates to its backend and asks the backend to send a token to an address attached to the user. It's not a cryptographic system that mines coins by showing ads.
It's a useless gimmick that has nothing to do with cryptocurrency. The real coins are so valuable because they are cryptographically strong. This thing is centralized and its mechanism of payments for ad views is not cryptographically strong. The token has some value only because of peoples' stupidity.
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With other browsers, the clear and obvious incentive is "to get paid to spy on users". I'm not a big Brave fan but saying their incentives are worse than Chrome or even Firefox is ridiculous.
Have you ever heard of open source browsers like ungoogled chromium or pale moon? They have no incentives and are far better than brave’s, who wants to sell you advertising.
Brave's model is to try to remove the coercion from advertising. Right now most companies are spending immense amounts of efforts spying on your and then trying to shove ads at you, and fighting every effort to block those ads or to avoid their spying. Brave's model is instead to try to create a more cooperative system. You view ads if and only if you want. The motivations they give you for this is to support the sites you like while also getting a little kickback yourself.
Somewhat analogous business models have failed, repeatedly, in things such as 'socialism restaurants' that tried to operate on a pay-what-you-can scheme since enough people opted out (by paying $0) to make it a losing venture. But I think it's something that will likely succeed here since the purchase price is always $0 - you're paying with attention, not money. Hahah, perhaps one of these socialism restaurants could actually work if they also provided a "free" pay method such as watching an ad!