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Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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I don't want to be old.

30 isn't old. I'm 38, and I'm more active and exploring life than ever. "Old" is only what you are when you stop pushing yourself.

Joe Rogan said in a recent podcast, "I'm _way_ more fit than I was at 30, and I'm 52 now. I'm way more fit because I DO more, I work out way more ..." Of course there's a certain amount of momentum-building that goes into that. And then there's the ALL IMPORTANT self-discipline ...

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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On one hand, my body is probably fucked from laying in bed for 18 hours a day, every single day, a year. On the other hand, moving about is exhausting and hurts so why would I want to do it? I fully plan on killing myself before 30 so it's not like I'll see the knock-on effects.

If you're not moving no wonder you think it's painful & exhausting to so and that life in general is crap, you're weak aka unhealthy and already 'actively' killing yourself by trying to go against what your nature demands, obviously it sends you the bill nonetheless. Easy to fix.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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It seems melodramatic to me. And these abnormal changes can be mitigated by walking those 10,000 steps a day they reduced their activity by. That requires a conscious effort, but it's not an onerous burden.

It is not melodramatic, it is a technical term being used properly. You are perhaps thinking about the psychiatric usage implying a significant mental disorder, but here it just means that the system (i.e. metabolism) has been disturbed in its function, e.g. that it is out of normal range.

Pendantically yes, and yes, it describes the problem, and used medically it's not melodramatic, but looking at the original comments text:

> It accurately conveys how completely abnormal the changes are.

that would make no sense in the medically accurate context. Derangement being used as "something disturbed in its function" is literally anything being wrong, no matter how minor. It doesn't have to be "completely abnormal", merely abnormal by some means. The post I was responding too clearly doesn't believe it to be a minor dysfunction and wasn't understanding it in the technical context either.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

It's kind of like taking drugs, you know? The activity you do is somewhat slowly killing you, so be kinda/sorta OK with that.

Being a little less flippant, my suggestion is to fight for livable cities where car ownership is one option out of many others, including walking and riding bicycles. If you get out of bed, then straight to your car, then drive to work, to then sit some more (x5 days each week), just to reverse it, it's going to be detrimental in the long run to your health - there's just no other way around it.

If that seems unbelievable, think of the diseases of affluence we, as a culture, have: Type II diabetes, heart disease, etc. Our bodies were born to move, not to code all day to then vegetate all night.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Walking good, sitting bad." But seriously, I think this sort of adds to the pile of evidence that even small amounts of exercise on a regular basis has marked health impacts. I'm a Type 1 diabetic so I have the benefit of a sensor that continuously tells me my blood glucose, so I can see the difference between when I'm walking on a daily basis to and from the office, and when I'm working from home. Same breakfast, v…

What kind of sensor do you have ? I am not diabetic but I'd like to monitor my sugar level somehow.

I use the Medtronic Guardian Plus because it ties into my insulin pump which then regulates how much background insulin to give me. Dexcom, as mentioned in another comment, is a standalone sensor that doesn't tie directly into a pump.

All sensors that I know of are invasive though, so they have to be replaced every 7-10 days, which requires a needle and other things to cover it.

You could also just buy a glucometer (though you'd need a prescription for the test strips, at least in the US) than test once or twice a day and keep a log.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

I use an under desk treadmill (iMovr ThermoTread GT) and average 2.5 mi per day. It's fairly quiet and most of my peers like it.

There are also bike options if that's preferred

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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> harder in suburbia True, takes some adjustments... When I drive somewhere, I try to park at the back of the parking lot for a bit of a walk (bonus: keeps your car dent free too). When I go check my mail, I walk to the end of the block first and get it on my way back (bonus: get to keep an eye on my neighborhood and say hi to some neighbors). When I drop my daughter at school we park a block away and walk in (bonus:…

Yup, great ideas. They really do add up. Even in a city I find stuff like that helps me, I often extend an errand through a park for example. Here's another: when I'm in a multi story building, I almost never take the elevator down . If the building is less than five stories I'll generally take the stairs up too, often at a light run. One more: stairs instead of escalator. At minimum, walking on an escalator.

These are great ideas - I feel like the key is being conscientious and selfish (in an acceptable way) about yourself (your health and well-being), otherwise the cumulative effects of “efficiency” add up. I need to claw back this time and exercise that used to just be “play”. I personally incorporate my bicycle frequently.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Where there's a will, there's a way. At first I was known as that pushup guy at the office, then all the guys did it with me. It was almost a joke. "Alright, it's pushup time!" and my group did pushups. We even got a pullup bar installed. Some people preferred to take those times to walk a lap outside. If we're going to generalize about what can/can't be done at a software developer job, punctuating the job with some…

Haha that's really good. In addition to my under desk treadmill, I also brought some resistant bands so my neighbors and I can occasionally do curls, shoulder presses, etc.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Where there's a will, there's a way. At first I was known as that pushup guy at the office, then all the guys did it with me. It was almost a joke. "Alright, it's pushup time!" and my group did pushups. We even got a pullup bar installed. Some people preferred to take those times to walk a lap outside. If we're going to generalize about what can/can't be done at a software developer job, punctuating the job with some…

Unfortunately, there are workplaces that will remove things like a pullup bar because it's seen as a distraction.

Certainly varies, there is a portable pull bar that someone brought into our office that some of us use. It's been there for at least two years
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