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Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#81

It has to freaking stop crashing first. And stop freezing my computer with just 20 tabs open (for 32gb of ram). And complete their password manager. And implement recent standards to make apps work. And... Yeah, I'm still using it instead of Chrome just because I want to depend less on Google, but dammit Chrome is better.

I can't recall it ever crashing in the past year and I use it all day on multiple computers including nix, macos and windows.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#82

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Try IceCat. It's a GNU-approved Firefox clone (tracking Firefox codebase continuously), clean from integrations and pre-configured for privacy. It's also free, in both senses!

Thanks! But IceCat is on 60.7 while FF is 68.0 ?

It tracks the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch of Firefox. That means it gets new features once a year and then only bugfixes after that. ESR 60 is last year's, work is probably ongoing to rebase IceCat on ESR 68 which came out last July.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#83

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Those 500 million are easily eclipsed if you compare it to what Google's revenue is... EDIT: It was 136 billion in 2018: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266206/googles-annual-gl...

Even though Google is 250 times or so bigger, the point is still valid. Where the hell money gets spent? That kind of revenues are huge for any software company, especially for a one that is just making a browser.

Just making a browser? It's the piece of software I'd least be willing to touch. Even Microsoft gave up and switched their core to Chromium.

Considering that, it's quite amazing that Mozilla is capable of not just making a browser, but also an email client, with a budget of 500 million.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#84
Unfortunately for my application (which includes helping doctors create medical care plans) Firefox still does not support SpeechRecognition. This is despite Mozilla's DeepSpeech project on GitHub having had its first public commit in Nov 2016 (judging by its README file). As a result we don't have much choice but to recommend Chrome for the best experience.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#85

It has to freaking stop crashing first. And stop freezing my computer with just 20 tabs open (for 32gb of ram). And complete their password manager. And implement recent standards to make apps work. And... Yeah, I'm still using it instead of Chrome just because I want to depend less on Google, but dammit Chrome is better.

I can't recall it ever crashing in the past year and I use it all day on multiple computers including nix, macos and windows.

I find it crashed every other morning when I wake up my mac

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#87
> This raises some questions: why is Firefox usage going down, and what does Mozilla need to do to bring it back up?

> How does an average user get started with Firefox?

This misses the elephant in the room : the main reason Chrome is eating other browsers is that Google is putting its advertising might behind it. You know that little "want a better browser" pop-up displayed on Google's search engine? That's an absolute killer for other browsers.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#88
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But the new Firefox for Android will not support extensions.

The story for extensions in Fenix has not been finalized yet.

They'd better get their act together.

I bet a sizable fraction of their mobile user base only went with Firefox for addon support.

I'd (grudgingly) move to one of the Chromium-derived alternatives that still give me uBlock and uMatrix.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

#89
This could be a little off topic here. I would like to contribute to Firefox but I have no idea where to start with. I dabble with C and x86 assembly. Can anyone suggest where I should get started?

I have barely contributed to any open source projects except for a few minor bug fixes.

Re: Firefox has lots of room to improve if it wants to beat Chrome

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> What privacy has the average Joe user gained by switching to Firefox? None. They’re still using Google Search and (most likely) other Google products. I don't agree with this part. Though the bigger point is that not using Google as a default engine is very user hostile - as everyone is using Google. Of course this isn't ideal from a privacy perspective. But setting it to something else will only frustrate most com…

Duckduckgo is fine for like 80-85% of searches I do, but there are areas where Google is unbeatable (unbeaten?) yet
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