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Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by Kaibeezy »

phonypc wrote: post #74
Kaibeezy wrote: post #17

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Right. I looked for that info. Maybe I'll look again. Watch this space. OK, found the British Takeaway Campaign 2017 report, https://jeweb-11431-s3.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/applicatio... - It's a pretty detailed and interesting report, but for everything in there it doesn't provide this data point. Overall, it does mention: Spending on takeaway grew to £9.9 billion in 2016, up more than a third (34%) since 2009 (£7…

What is English takeaway? Savoury pies?

https://www.just-eat.co.uk/takeaway/nearme/english

  Shepherds Pie
  Bangers & Mash
  Fish & Chips
  Steak & Kidney Pie
  Roast Beef & Yorkshire Pudding
  Cornish Pasty
F&C obvs popular enough to get its own category.

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Post by povertyworld »

ptah wrote: post #28
coldtea wrote: post #18

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> Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Or you can just ostracize them. Saves lots of emotional turmoil in the long run, as the vegan friend telling everybody about their dietary choices quickly takes its toll on adults...

the toll of eating meat on environment is far greater than your concerns over your feelings. choose the lesser evil

Have vegans given up their cars yet? Veganism is a nice gesture, but really vegans need to step it up and ditch the cars if they care about the Earth.

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by davinic »

wUabkSG6L5Bfa5 wrote: post #22
tobr wrote: post #11

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Bingo. I think this is a virtuous cycle. Even if only a small percentage of people are vegans, you only need one vegan in a group of people to pick a place that offers vegan food. Vegan food is also a safe bet for the larger group of vegetarians. That means more places want to offer some good vegan options, which in turn makes more people try vegan food, and makes it easier to be a vegan. I’m not a vegan nor a vegeta…

Nassim Taleb makes precisely this argument about the power of stubborn minorities. Which I think is 99% great. Though I think the medium term equilibrium is just that more establishments will need to do better than a half-ass salad for a vegan offering. Which is 100% great.

The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority [1]

[1] https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...

Re: Vegan takeaway orders quadruple over past two years

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Post by strict9 »

everythingswan wrote: post #55
Iv wrote: post #44

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For me that's a mix of ethical and environmental concerns. I agree that there is a point in the belief that it is unethical to kill animals. That's not the most unethical thing that is happening in the world, there are a lot of things to argue about, but in general, I agree that in an ideal world, we should not do that. The environmental concerns, I only buy half-heartedly. I don't really believe that land-owners wil…

What are the constraints based on where you live? I knew someone who grew up heavily on beef since she was from a small, rural country. Is it a similar reason? I'm interested in food insecurity and related things, which is why I ask.

I grew up and lived in a rural area (southern appalachians in the US) and it was not easy. Small town restaurants often have zero options, living near a taco bell was about the best you can hope for.

Not even morningstar farms veggie burgers in grocery stores. But that was 10 years ago, things are different now.

Whenever I go home for Christmas I'm amazed at what's available.

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Post by dfxm12 »

Ensorceled wrote: post #50
mytailorisrich wrote: post #45

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

I try to eat a vegan meal at least a couple of times a week and vegetarian usually once a day. If semi-vegetarian is off limits, what am I?

You're just a boring omnivore, like most of us.

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Post by lostgame »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #68

As interesting as this is, it's just the takeaway sector. As someone in the higher-end restaurant sector, I certainly haven't seen increased demand for vegan options. It also doesn't help that many vegans are very price sensitive, not to mention have a disproportionate amount of other dietary restrictions.

Huh. Opposite experience here in Toronto, where I've seen 5-10 new, very popular vegan restaurants in this city pop up over the course of 4 years or so.

The statistics may present this to be takeaway only, but, for instance, the oddly named Hogtown Vegan has become one of the more popular and well-received places in the city.

May I ask what city you're from? I'm curious as to whether this is a regional thing.

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Post by saagarjha »

coldtea wrote: post #38
akiselev wrote: post #33

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Adults generally dont suffer emotional turmoil when someone else talks about their food.

If others do it on every opportunity, with a smug holier than thou attitude and needless detail, they do... In fact studies have shown it can drive a person insane...

If you frequently go to places to eat, I think it’s entirely reasonable for a vegan friend to tell you what their dietary preferences are. Other than that, it looks like your problem is with a specific person.

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Post by strict9 »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #68

As interesting as this is, it's just the takeaway sector. As someone in the higher-end restaurant sector, I certainly haven't seen increased demand for vegan options. It also doesn't help that many vegans are very price sensitive, not to mention have a disproportionate amount of other dietary restrictions.

Not sure what what city you're in, but even the high-end restaurant where I live (Alinea in Chicago, about $800-1200 for two people) gladly caters to vegan preferences.

With the exception of steak houses (not fine dining IMO) there are always vegan options in my experience.

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Post by nothrabannosir »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #45

Vegan and vegetarian are absolute terms. The only meaning of "semi-vegetarian" or "semi-vegan" is that you're not either. "Semi-vegan" is a particularly nonsensical term.

There is a downside to insisting on the purity of that definition. In the wild, vegetarian fundamentalism puts people off choosing vegetarian options, because going all the way is too hard for many. Net result is more meat consumption.

Ironically, this attitude is harmful to the environment and to animals.

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