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Re: Interslavic Language

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As someone who has followed the constructed language and international auxiliary language community for a couple of decades, and as someone with an undergraduate degree in linguistics, I do not see a constructed language catching on with the mainstream public any time soon. A constructed language is a language that someone sits down and creates; this is different from a natural language which just forms as people com…

I have high hopes for a constructed language to someday become the dominant language. But I think it would need to be heavily modelled along multiple dimensions, serious computational power would need to be brought to bear on it to make it accessible and useful, and it would need to be tested on multiple focus groups with wildly different first languages, etc.

I think there would be huge gains if a language was designed right. It could give us the tools to communicate complex ideas effectively for example, and perhaps make it easier to reduce ambiguity. Numbers 1-10 could be single syllables (or even shorter?) to take advantage of our auditory memory. etc etc

Re: Interslavic Language

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This isn't specific to Slavic languages, it's the norm for all sorts of related languages or even the same language evolving over time. Think of the etymology of 'nice' or 'guest'/'host'/'hostile'/'hospital'.

Words derived from the same source as 'Loft' seem to universally mean 'sky' or 'air' in almost all germanic languages... except English where it means 'small room near the ceiling'.

At least it's still in the ballpark! Compare with 'gift' or 'worry'.

Re: Interslavic Language

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Words derived from the same source as 'Loft' seem to universally mean 'sky' or 'air' in almost all germanic languages... except English where it means 'small room near the ceiling'.

At least it's still in the ballpark! Compare with 'gift' or 'worry'.

TIL German 'gift' and English 'gift' are actually the same word! I had assumed it was a coincidence.

Re: Interslavic Language

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Ludwig Wittgenstein: the borders of my language are the borders of my world . English is a language many young Slavs learn in preparation to or in the course of their professional life as in the world of the Pax Americana it quite simply has become an economical necessity to know it well. However, the English language cannot naturally transmit any of the linguistic particularities (proverbs, turns of phrases) and, ge…

I think it depends on the fluency of your Russian vs fluency of your English. I’m Russian and I’m fluent in English so if I sensed you don’t quite understand what I’m saying in Russian I’d immediately try English. I’d have probably ended up mixing the two.

> I’d immediately try English.

Unless it's a literal matter of life and death to understand what the other person is saying without too much of a delay, it's a pretty asshole-y thing to do:

a) The other person will "immediately" know that you think that their Russian is not up to snuff. b) They'll know their well intended effort isn't appreciated.

Re: Interslavic Language

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From tutorial:

> Neoslavonic has 7 grammatical cases.

Fascinating. The vocative case has disappeared from Slovak (but not Czech). It exists historically, and is still available for ironic contexts, but scholars consider it dead.

Historically, for instance in the Lord's Prayer: Otče náš, ktorý si na nebesiach, ... (Our Father who art in Heaven ...). This "otče" is the vocative case of "otec" (father), something a modern speaker wouldn't use to address his or her father.

Ironically, in phrases like chlapče môj ... (my dear fellow/boy ...), vocative of "chlapec" (boy).

Re: Interslavic Language

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No, it's a standardized dialect of Malay, in the same way that Filipino is a standardized dialect of Tagalog.

Well it was based off a particular dialect of Malay, but it’s certainly not exactly the same as that dialect, nor the language spoken in Malaysia today. The Interslavic language in the OP is also based on existing languages. It was also implemented the same way you’d imagine a created language would be. A central authority came up with the language, told the people to learn it, and then a couple hundred million of th…

Guess it's an unusual version of the old saying: "A language is a dialect with its own army"

Re: Interslavic Language

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The thing Interslavic is doing has also been tried before, but the illustrative example isn't Esperanto (which is an ad-hoc mixture of words taken arbitrarily from existing languages and put into a synthetic grammar) but rather Interlingua, which is a kind of streamlined Romance language. It too is more-or-less comprehensible by people who speak any Romance language, and was intended to be used in much the same way.…

Native Spanish speaker here: I only needed to read the translation for the last three words. They did quite a good job. :) But a language also needs an army (or a central bank, or both).

As a French, the text is also really easy to understand, except for the two words "vole esser". That being said, writing in this language would still require months of learning.
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