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Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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It's an interesting question whether a person in his position has a right to commit suicide.

No, not really, that doesn't seem like an interesting question at all. Can you convince me otherwise? It seems obvious to me that while a right to commit suicide might exist typically, somebody imprisoned is obviously not entitled to it. We restrict many rights when we imprison people, and I see no reason why the 'right to commit suicide' should not be one of them. Allowing such a man to kill himself denies his victi…

> No, not really, that doesn't seem like an interesting question at all.

You say that, yet you went through the trouble of writing a reply that ponders this exact question: At what point does suicide become morally acceptable?

I do think it is an interesting question. I'd go the way of saying: If you still have serious responsibilities (as in this case), it is immoral.

It's worth noting that suicide used to be a serious offense - or even a capital offense, ironically.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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This happened hours after the latest tranche of documents were made public, documents that named names. Unfortunately for this community, one of our MIT heros was on that list. Don't even know what to say.

Source please... I want to see the names, ALL of the names.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Can we just shut down the Department of Corrections? They are, at best, massively incompetent and negligent, and at worst, massively corrupt and negligent.

So just let all the inmates out into the streets, not because they do absolutely nothing, but because they aren't perfect according to your standards. A stop the world rewrite, HN style, right?

Have you ever seen documentaries of prisons in South American countries?

Peru has some truly apocalyptic examples of prisons that are just walled yards with dilapidated shelters and no guards. Well, maybe a maximum of watch towers manned with snipers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvu575hiOOc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvian_prison_massacres

In these prisons they just drop raw ingredients for food that the gates to the yard, and transfer them to the inmates' possession. On occasion there are incidents that require communication or the transfer of individuals, and they treat it like handling hostages.

So, it's not like your suggestion isn't in use. Consider the shape it takes, when directly applied to real world scenarios.

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