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But I still don't want to carry two phones. Which is why I only redirect my company phone regular voice calls to the private one when I'm out of office. If it's urgent, call. If it's not, I'll get to it when I'm in the office.
That is totally understandable, and I hope you don't get in trouble when law enforcement comes looking for your personal device that somehow got caught up in their list of devices to look for.
This is certainly a very good reason to not put your work account on your personal phone, but my primary reason not to is that it's my device and I pay for the service. If my company needs me to be available beyond my 9-5 workday, they can pay for it. If there's an emergency, they can always call, but I don't like being "always on".
Interesting that this was just about spying, when the real reason to keep work email off your phone (imo) is to maintain work life balance. If I can access my work email on my phone, I will access my work email on my phone. Constantly. I'm bad enough with my phone and my personal email. Everywhere I've worked I've told my manager I turn off work when I leave (unless I'm oncall). I've never had this be a concern, acro…
> When you add a work email address to your phone, you’ll likely be asked to install something called a Mobile Device Management (MDM) profile. Chances are, you’ll blindly accept it. (What other choice do you have?) I use the Nine mail/calendar app[1] to keep all that contained. It integrates nicely with the native Android apps but keeps all of the security and control options within Nine itself. It looks like they a…
This kind of sandboxing is one of the things third party apps like this have always been known for, going all the way back to a really old one whose name in blanking on which I believe maintained its own entirely internal calendar, files, etc. (Dataviz maybe?)
Edit: this may still be useful for some people, but the work profiles introduced in Android 5+ may make it less relevant at least for anyone at enterprise scale or otherwise using MDM through a service provider.
I'm a remote contractor. Usually, if my customer wants me to install some tracking software (recording you're present in front of PC, tracking mouse/keyboard activity, etc) I agree only on one term: they need to send me a machine with this software so I can use it while doing work. I lose customers this way, though most of the time people agree to not have this kind of software involved instead of rejecting offer alt…
I think that would be such a red flag for me of how everything else is at that client that I would never agree to the contract in the first place.
Since most of my clients allow BYOD I sometimes get asked to ensure I have antivirus etc installed. Which is ok as long as they don't dictate which software. So far that has been fine for all clients.
I have some clients that insist on a locked-down laptop to access some parts of their network, and they happily send me one that I use it for mostly email only. Having tracking software on it would be pointless as it would only show 5 minutes of email checking activity every 2-3 hours.
Unless by tracking you mean webcam and slack status? That seems acceptable to me. And as I mostly encourage(insist) that my teams use webcams when they are remote pairing etc it would be hypocritical of me to say otherwise.
This is certainly a very good reason to not put your work account on your personal phone, but my primary reason not to is that it's my device and I pay for the service. If my company needs me to be available beyond my 9-5 workday, they can pay for it. If there's an emergency, they can always call, but I don't like being "always on".
Personally, I choose the opposite: you need to email me to tell me you want to call me (so that I’ll turn on my softphone app), otherwise you’ll just automatically go to voicemail (which will also go to my email.)
I notice that with Gmail’s inbox categories, you only get push-notified when something lands in Primary or Updates; so as long as you’ve trained the system to push the irrelevant/lifecycle stuff into the other categories, your phone won’t ding all that often. (Mine doesn’t, and I get a good amount of raw email.)
I'm a remote contractor. Usually, if my customer wants me to install some tracking software (recording you're present in front of PC, tracking mouse/keyboard activity, etc) I agree only on one term: they need to send me a machine with this software so I can use it while doing work. I lose customers this way, though most of the time people agree to not have this kind of software involved instead of rejecting offer alt…
This is certainly a very good reason to not put your work account on your personal phone, but my primary reason not to is that it's my device and I pay for the service. If my company needs me to be available beyond my 9-5 workday, they can pay for it. If there's an emergency, they can always call, but I don't like being "always on".
Personally I need to be able to put everything to the side when I'm out of office.