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Welp, you don't get to do that on Twitter now.
So, I understand the attitude that, "twitter is just a platform, they don't have to be just, why wring your hands so much about what their rules are?" This makes sense if their rules don't matter, so in that case why should they even have rules? That's a position I can understand, where you can post anything on Twitter that's legal under US law.
Updating our rules against hateful conduct
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Welp, you don't get to do that on Twitter now.
So, I understand the attitude that, "twitter is just a platform, they don't have to be just, why wring your hands so much about what their rules are?" This makes sense if their rules don't matter, so in that case why should they even have rules? That's a position I can understand, where you can post anything on Twitter that's legal under US law.
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This crosses into religious flamewar. That's not ok on HN; please don't do it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Dang, respectfully disagree as this is a meta-comment on the concept, not targeting any specific religion. However you are welcome to delete if you feel it best.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, I understand the attitude that, "twitter is just a platform, they don't have to be just, why wring your hands so much about what their rules are?" This makes sense if their rules don't matter, so in that case why should they even have rules? That's a position I can understand, where you can post anything on Twitter that's legal under US law.
I'm sorry, I don't understand your logic. If someone has rules, but those rules aren't the same as US law, it seems you're saying, they might as well not have rules at all?
So, either Twitter isn't right because they took a rough stab into a subtle area, or they aren't right because they took a stab that didn't need to be taken.
Re: Updating our rules against hateful conduct
#85Interesting. So criticizing religious positions against abortion, against vaccines, against homosexuality, and in favor of the flat earth will now result in post removal. Assuming this policy is going to be impartially and fairly applied as stated.
> So criticizing religious positions against abortion, against vaccines, against homosexuality, and in favor of the flat earth will now result in post removal. Only if you "dehumanize" said religious people. All of the examples Twitter posted involved comparing the religious in question to animals (or viruses). So, I doubt a tweet like "I don't think it's right to let the mother die because of fetus complications" wo…
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#86I'm very concerned about loosing the right to attack religion. It's an important discussion to have and for children to see. All religion is foolish, and has to be approached from a reality-based context.
The reasonable interpretation is that you can attack religion (as an ideology) but you can not attact religious people based on their religion. Thats a safe split: ideologies do not have (human) rights anyway... So e.g. you can freely say that the Bible is stupid but can't say the same thing about its believers.
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The problem is that it's also possible to criticize in a way where it's simply not possible to determine if it was a good faith criticism or not. There's a wide population of people who even optimize for that, they're called trolls. Moderation mistakes are inevitable, and the consequences of a bad moderation decision can be as bad, or worse, than the effect of the message itself. IMO, people should learn to defend th…
> The problem is that it's also possible to criticize in a way where it's simply not possible to determine if it was a good faith criticism or not. That's a problem in some generic sense perhaps, but not with the application of this policy, which does not rely on a determination of “good faith criticism”, but instead of dehumanization. Note that the examples of what is covered all are dehumanizing in a very narrow se…
Re: Updating our rules against hateful conduct
#88People really need to get off Twitter. There are a lot of servers on the Fediverse, running Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey, Pixelfed and other ActivityPub webapps. Just because famous person x,y,z or friends a,b,c, aren't on the Fediverse doesn't mean you shouldn't try it out. It's like the 1990s, old IRC and AOL chatrooms. You can just follow a lot of randoms and get into cool threads. There are many instances that have…