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Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Too freaking slow.

Have you tried it recently? It has gotten a lot faster, so much so that some people say it's faster than Chrome in many cases. Personally, I find it more than adequate, and I agree with their mission a lot more than the other browser vendors.

It's been years people suggest the same "have you tried recently", but it doesn't come even close to the snappiness of any chromium based browser when I use it.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Sadly not an option on iOS, which is the reason for using Brave in the first place.

Honestly, blocking ads/trackers on mobile has always been a tricky business. You could set up Pi-Hole on your home network. Or see if there's something similar to this on iOS: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/dnsfilter.android/

It's actually one of the reasons I use Android and why I'm looking at alternatives, like Librem 5 and PinePhone. I don't like how Apple doesn't allow competing browser engines on their phones and tablets (only skins that use Safari underneath), and I don't like Google's privacy issues on their phones.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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It's potentially even worse than that. Exploiting this grey area in the law will lead to a response from the courts and lawmakers. That response might well require that browsers display pages exactly as the publisher intends. In other words, the end of ad blockers and other tools, thanks to Brave. (Not at all unlikely given that Google seems to want that too.)

> That response might well require that browsers display pages exactly as the publisher intends. IANAL, but I highly doubt that the government will mandate what browsers people run on their computers. Outside of North Korea, of course.

They won’t mandate a specific browser, but they can regulate functionality.

Piracy is already considered theft. Viewing webpages without ads is basically “stealing” web content. I would not be surprised in the slightest if some big advertiser runs with this idea and lobbies for strict legislation. And they likely would succeed, quite honestly. Congress doesn’t understand adblocking or the internet, but they have a vague idea of digital piracy.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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No, the Brave browser does not try to verify that the page that it's replacing ads on has opted into Brave's "rewards" thing. They'll s/page_ads/brave_ads/ and collect a check regardless of if that revenue is going to the page owner or not. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999

> replacing ads > They'll s/page_ads/brave_ads/ My point was that this literally does not happen. Brave does not insert ads into pages, ever, it only removes them. I'll admit I'm skeptical of the whole cryto-currency model, too, but I try to keep my points factually accurate.

They got a ton of attention when they first launched for their idea of replacing ads. See point two on this archive from early 2017: https://web.archive.org/web/20170129165028/https://www.brave... Now they have a disclaimer at the top https://www.brave.com/about_ad_replacement.html but honestly, until today I thought they were still doing it.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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I'm impressed with Brave. I've started using it as my primary browser (after a couple false starts a year or so ago) and it has all the best of Chrome without the worst. There is controversy about how Brave does stuff, and I agree there is some sketchy stuff they are doing (replacing ads with their own). I'm glad they are giving us a choice, though, and exploring different options for sites being able to makes some m…

>There is controversy about how Brave does stuff, and I agree there is some sketchy stuff they are doing I would be more open to trying/using brave if someone respectable packaged it. As of writing, not a single distro packages it. It would lower my barrier to entry a lot if it were packaged by debian/fedora/f-droid. It doesn't imply anything serious, just that it can be built from source and that it passed the distr…

If they care about both a fast development cycle and rapid adoption then spending time getting an official package for Debian/etc. makes no sense.

> It doesn't imply anything serious, just that it can be built from source and that it passed the distro's basic diligence and guidelines.

For a modern web browser it probably doesn't achieve the latter. Both Chromium and Firefox are too complex for Debian's meager backporting resources. So they make an exception to their guidelines and ship the LTS release. I suppose the userbase just hopes that bad things don't if the browser LTS upgrade happens before the OS's LTS upgrade is ready.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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It feels to me like this could be legislated based on profiting on others' copyright. The issue here is one party making money, without consent of any form, based on another party's published materials.

> The issue here is one party making money, without consent of any form, based on another party's published materials. So, google’s search engine business?

That's an unfair comparison. A three line snippet is hardly the same thing as taking an entire page. Not to mention that all search engines do this.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Brave is doing some of the best anti-Corporatist work in the community right now.

They replace other ad network ads with their own ~ads~ crypto currency . They monetize the content of others and don't tell them. If you have a youtube channel, they will swap out ads and collect the ad revenue without telling the channel that they're doing so. I'm not particularly impressed with their business. In fact I'm pretty disgusted with it.

None of what you said is true. I'm puzzled by the constant lies and FUD spread here against Brave. What exactly is the agenda?
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