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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by nvrspyx »

jhasse wrote: post #53
tstrimple wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and Safari is not because of speed The main reason I stick to Safari on my Macbook is that I still get significantly better battery life from it than either Chrome or Firefox. Chrome has also switched to a UX breaking requirement to hold cmd+q to quit instead of just tapping it. I'm sure I could configure it back to what literally every single other app on my Mac uses, but it's incredibly annoying that they think t…

> I'm sure I could configure it back [...] It's literally one click in the "Chrome" menu.

They’re talking about the keyboard shortcut. It’s much quicker to use CMD + Q to quit any app on Mac, but Chrome insists on making you hold it down. Clicking through the menus defeats the purpose and misses the point.

I’ve turned to using Alfred and typing “qgc” to Quit Google Chrome, although I use Alfred for most navigation now.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by weystrom »

It doesn't perform well on my Mac. No hw accelerated video (and still kinda slow) when I run Linux.

I've tried multiple times, and as much as I like what Mozilla is doing for privacy on the web, I keep coming back to Chromium.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by blunderkid »

I am a web dev and react debug console matters a lot to me but on FF it does this weird scroll to the top thing every time I switch file tabs. And it’s in general buggy. Now it may have to do with the plugin dev but if you want to be a viable platform, dudes need to be writing good software on top. I love the promise of FF and would want to make it my dev browser but using Chrome out of sheer necessity.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by crumpets »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #74
jjoonathan wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having your passwords quickly available on every computer, every phone, every OS, and every browser is great. Browser-plugin + app password managers do all 4, while password managers provided by the OS or browser typically fail at one of those. They fail hard, too, by making it difficult to manually extract passwords when you need to. They also tend to lack features like password generation, note storage, etc. It's a…

> by making it difficult to manually extract passwords Not true for Firefox. Just go the privacy settings, forms, saved logins.

That’s difficult for a common workflow. Going into “settings” for a password is as goofy as going into settings to look at your calendar.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by mch82 »

blunderkid wrote: post #84

I am a web dev and react debug console matters a lot to me but on FF it does this weird scroll to the top thing every time I switch file tabs. And it’s in general buggy. Now it may have to do with the plugin dev but if you want to be a viable platform, dudes need to be writing good software on top. I love the promise of FF and would want to make it my dev browser but using Chrome out of sheer necessity.

Could be worth documenting this issue in Bugzilla so the Firefox project team can work in improving react debug support.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by iamdamian »

I want to move on from Chrome, and Firefox's Containers have made Firefox an easy decision for me. But I am a huge fan of Chrome's aesthetic and don't want to give that up for the sake of privacy.

I am not one to do extensive tweaking to my machine, but this is important to me, so I spent an hour experimenting. And I have to say, I am pretty satisfied. Even though it isn't straightforward, Firefox actually can look nice and uncluttered.

If you're like me and want both privacy and aesthetics, here are some pointers:

  - Switch to the light theme.
  - Hide everything you can in the address/nav bar by clicking through the UI. Some settings are obscure, but you can get rid of a lot.
  - Hide even more using userChrome.css [0], including the outdated blue bar at the top of an active tab.
My userChrome.css looks like this and works like a charm: https://gist.github.com/iamdamian/9efc271208bfb5ca52dc51572b...

Now we just need Mozilla to come up with a more modern-looking logo.

[0]: https://www.userchrome.org/

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by swixm »

I switched to Vivaldi a few months ago. It's not as polished as Chrome or Firefox but it was made by the people who made Opera, and it shows.

Just having tabs laid out vertically makes it worth it.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by UglyToad »

I've long regarded the calls to switch to Firefox as tinfoil-hatted crankery but Chrome's behaviour with respect to ad-blocking caused me to finally make the switch. At the time I didn't use ad-blocking at all and didn't have any plans on it but I think this represented unacceptable overreach by Google so I switched to Firefox (and DDG for search).

I still miss bits of Chrome, the Chrome UX is still better, especially suggestions for sites you've already visited in the omni-bar and FF's 'Top Sites' logic seems a bit screwy, it includes pages I've visited once and leaves out pages I use every couple of hours but I think it's incumbent upon people to send a message to Google that their behaviour as a virtual monopoly is unacceptable by switching to a non-Chrome browser.

(I also started using an ad-blocker once I switched to Firefox, wow the web is a lot better without adverts!)

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by weystrom »

mrkeen wrote: post #73

Every time the Firefox v Chrome debate comes up I feel a little crazy when speed gets discussed. They're the same speed, right? Web pages on the other hand... 2 seconds to bring in the bulk of the content. Another second spent firing ajax requests to all the trackers. 2 seconds for me to click through all the Cookie notifications, GDPR violations, and bald-faced lies that the site values my privacy. What's a ballpark…

Just opening a new tab, when you have a lot of tabs open, is slow on Firefox.

Chrome is also much better for web video. Sites like Youtube and twitch.tv perform better on Chrome. I don't have any benchmarks on hand, but that's how I feel after switch between two browsers for a while. I think I'm sticking to Chromium.

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