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Re: DJI RoboMaster S1

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I know this is a yet-to-be released product and it says Python is supported, but does anyone know if it is possible to install 3rd party libraries and interact with the filesystem? Interested in installing a webserver like flask on here.

It will be interesting to see how open it is but DJIs first educational offering (Tello) and other products don't go very far in that regard.

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yes, there are many commercial toy robots with guns. And there are many gun toys and violent videogames etc etc. But they are not educational. Educational + has a cannon. There is some cognitive dissonance right there. My opinion.

Educational about what? What about Lego, is it educational? Because you learn to stick bricks together. So I guess it teaches you to become a brick mason, I suppose? To each their own, I suppose...

We used to build guns out of Lego which eventually over the years led to our invention of custom Lego crossbows using rubber bands to sling projectiles. Our competition quickly devolved from who could shoot the farthest to who could hit moving targets (each other, cats, etc). After being hit a few times from each other's weapons, we quickly learned it's not fun to be on the receiving end, even if it was just a few grams of plastic.

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as I said, it's hard, but I offer them alternatives: building things, ball games, surfing,... I guess they are better of with that than water blasters.

In what way are they better off, would you say? Btw Rudolf Steiner (of Waldorf School fame) would also outlaw ball games, at least soccer. After all, the ball could be mistaken for a head and it could train kids to kick heads.

I guess

1) they learn to have fun without the need to feel superiour (ball games need some supervision in that regard though)

2) they learn emotional intelligence, especially for activities that require collaboration (surfing not so much though)

people tend to miss, that in the early years many inner brain functions and predispositions, especially emotional regulation get tuned for the rest of the life...

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imo giving way to kids impulses like fighting might be commercially the most viable thing - educationally it is not. It is always much easier to be destructive than constructive. However, we should try to teach our kids the latter. Achieving win-win does not usually come from impulse but from empathy. Although it is hard, I try to avoid fighting games and media for my kids as much as I can and try to teach them compe…

Teaching how to code is constructive and creative btw. If you don't want the turret you can simply do so.

the main question is: for what purpose

here it is fighting... This particular robot though is hard to repurpose (e.g. put additional sensors on top, e.g. to measure things or additional actors to move things or have other meaningful impact)

commercially it makes sense, like a facebook bubble does, educationally it is limited

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My American girlfriend's immediate response: seems militaristic and violent. My daughter was turned off from robotics at a young age. She joined firstego league and there was a ton of domineering "boy energy" in her school. She enjoyed creating and personalizing the robots in unique ways, the boys wanted "to win". This is what happens when you have a bunch of dudes designing educational robot toys.

I'm curious, since you know your daughter's personality (and those of little girls in general) better than I do, how would the game be designed such that they'd be more interested? Keep in mind this is coming from a company known for making high quality drones.

I am not informed enough to even guess. Was it the first robotics ciricculum or the gender dynamics of the class? Or both?

That was 7 years ago, now she is in an all girls high school. The same sex education has provided a much less distracting environment. (Don't want to get off topic but I could go on and on about same sex education)

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Toy guns itself is an educational toy. It teaches you on how to use it. As kid growing up with guns the only way I can have my own and learn it is by having a toy version.

Guns are not toys. The fact that you cannot draw the line demonstrates the problem perfectly.

Well yeah, guns are not toys. And thus logically, toys are not guns.

> toy, noun, an object for a child to play with, typically a model or miniature replica of something.

A model of something is not the thing itself, therefore, toys are not guns, thus a toy gun is fine for children to have. Because it's a toy, and as you say, toys are not guns. :)

(Sorry if this comes off snarky, but seriously, step back and consider your argument: Lots of toys, as per the definition above, are models or real things. Cars aren't toys; does that mean toy cars should be banned in case a 6 year old plows his 1:75 scale diecast model car into a crowd? Obviously not. Other common toys include airplanes, kitchen appliances and tools. You seem to have misunderstood the entire point of toys. If the toy is itself dangerous, that's an issue. If the toy is a model of something which is dangerous, well, that's why the kid has the toy and not the real thing. Ideally they may even learn some caution with the safe toy version.)

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My American girlfriend's immediate response: seems militaristic and violent. My daughter was turned off from robotics at a young age. She joined firstego league and there was a ton of domineering "boy energy" in her school. She enjoyed creating and personalizing the robots in unique ways, the boys wanted "to win". This is what happens when you have a bunch of dudes designing educational robot toys.

Get your daughter a different toy, then, and let the boys enjoy their battles.

Are you feeling threatened?

I was just sharing some female perspectives. If this wasn't so expensive, I'd buy 2 for myself.

As a parent, I don't think there's a need to teach the next generation ok kids about AI in the context of autonomous killing machines...

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What does the "gun" shoot? It seems laser, but then how does the target in the movie (which seems to be paper) fall over?

it's some kind of small ball, need to absorb water for 2+ hours before use.

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This website has a major flaw. When I click the buy button it says not available in your country. I was thinking about getting this for my nephew who lives in the USA while I live in Australia. I know I'm obviously a small percentage that is outside USA that could buy and get it delivered to a local address but it still seems crazy not to even allow that. I know I could vpn it but I don't think that should be necessa…

It might be a legal issue instead of the small market. the robot shoot water ball so it might violate Australia law. just my 2 cents.
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