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Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Post by FraKtus »

bitcoinmoney wrote: post #29

Most people dont know but you can get P4S (plex for share) where you pay (or free) someone to get added on their plex library. Some of these servers have CDN and have 90+TB storage with automated requests system. Thousands of shows and movies. You can also get IPTV, which is basivally cable TV through internet for 10$/month. 5000 channels. You ask how its possible? Basically fly by night companies redistributing cabl…

It's frustrating that with the fragmentation of Streaming services it's tempting to get back to piracy. It's like we are back to the beginning of piracy. Today you can get a pirate IPTV provider for ten bucks and set it up on your AppleTV and bingo you get 5000+ tv channels, thousands of movies. I have Netflix, Hulu, Molotov using smart DNS but I also have one IPTV provider to be complete...

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Post by kkarakk »

procinct wrote: post #53
torgian wrote: post #40

Piracy is alive and kicking in a lot of countries still, as I'm sure some of you know. Netflix is probably partially at fault for this. When I travel to different countries and pull up Netflix, I see shows available in that country that aren't available in another. It's annoying. Of course, a VPN takes care of this (to an extent).

I used to always use a VPN for Netflix but then they started cracking down and it stopped working. Are you still able to use a VPN to view content from a different region?

if the vpn is well known it gets blocked by netflix, have to experiment with what doesn't get tracked

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Post by zaarn »

dewey wrote: post #27
JamesBarney wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plex is a really easy way to stream video files from your computer to a chromecast, and I can use my phone as a remote. It works just as well as googe play and better than my current amazon workflow.(Which I can only play from the computer because they won't allow streaming to chromecast)

You are not accounting for the important part of sourcing the pirated movies and running a Plex server though? That's what 99% of the people who only want to consume will be struggling with, not the playback client.

Sonarr/Radarr can acquire the media files fairly easily, requires not that much setup. If torrent is risky in your country, they also support Usenet, which has most of the recent releases as well (and can be faster in some situations).

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Post by dagw »

guitarbill wrote: post #5
stevenjohns wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also happy paying for content but equally happy to immediately switch to pirating if it gets too complicated. Probably easier now than it was before - internet is a lot faster, anonymity is a lot better, hardware is a lot cheaper and things like Plex make it pretty damn straight forward to get it up and going. Almost everyone in Australia pirated Game of Thrones -- the only streaming service provider was also the…

Piracy is getting more attractive, too. Since works get taken out of streaming, you might find things aren't available next month. So even when I have a subscription, I'll still pirate things (the same things!), to create a permanent library and make switching easer, now that streaming libraries per service are shrinking drastically.

Since works get taken out of streaming, you might find things aren't available next month

Either that or Netflix only has rights to the first couple of seasons (or in some cases the middle few seasons) so if you actually end up liking the show you're screwed since you won't be able to watch the whole thing.

Another annoying problem is that in some cases and in some countries Netflix only has the dubbed version of a movie or show and so you're again screwed if you want to watch the original version.

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Post by miki123211 »

bitcoinmoney wrote: post #29

Most people dont know but you can get P4S (plex for share) where you pay (or free) someone to get added on their plex library. Some of these servers have CDN and have 90+TB storage with automated requests system. Thousands of shows and movies. You can also get IPTV, which is basivally cable TV through internet for 10$/month. 5000 channels. You ask how its possible? Basically fly by night companies redistributing cabl…

Some tech-savvy people in here (Poland) also use cardsharing. Basically it's normal, satellite TV, but they don't get a legal card and set top box from the provider. Instead, some shady company hosted in the Netherlands buys them in bulk, puts it in some special module and lets multiple people use them. It's apparently one card per 3 or 4 subscribers at a time, not one card per household. Haven't tried it muself but apparently it's cheap and reliable.

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Post by artificial »

chx wrote: post #67
voidwtf wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same old out of touch attitude that led to the “you wouldn’t steal a car would you” commercials. Nobody has to watch the content but they want to. You have fly-by-nights and unethical operations abounding that make everything only a google search away, sometimes with a single click. I agree that people should not be entitled to the intellectual property of others. However, like the war on drugs and sex ed…

> You have fly-by-nights and unethical operations abounding that make everything only a google search away, sometimes with a single click. Somebody uploaded the entire The Queen's Corgi on YouTube in pristine 720p quality (they must have had access to a BluRay to get this quality) and it's not even out in the USA yet (I am not even sure it'll even be released at all). No tricks, no visual artefacts to hide it, nothin…

The heydays, I’d like to add Suprnova!

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Post by CJefferson »

netwanderer3 wrote: post #74

Nobody has mentioned the real problem is that most Hollywood movies these days are recycled garbage. People are probably going to switch from Netflix over to Disney+ once it is launched. Once Netflix is gone, Disney+ would then jack up its price to $40/month. I think we have all seen this movie too many times before.

I'm disappointed, but not suprised, to see this post so high. Despite all the ways of watching films at home, cinema is having its most successful years ever, so clearly many people are enjoying the films Hollywood is putting out.

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Post by voltagex_ »

14 wrote: post #47
40acres wrote: post #22

I don't think piracy will come back as streaming becomes more segregated, people generally will go with the legitimate market over illegal means as long as the fiction is under a certain level. Most Americans would rather pay an extra $15 a month for streaming that to pirate content and go through the "hassle" of getting that pirated content on their TV. How many non-tech people do you know who can mirror a PC or lap…

My old dad would rather pirate then pay any amount of money and still have commercials shoved down his throat. He feels it is double dipping so to speak. Plus pirates get 4K streams vs Netflix which serves you quality based on what you pay. I feel the hassle was fixed a long time ago. It’s pretty much point and click these days.

Where are you getting your 4K content from?

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Post by JoshuaRedmond »

chx wrote: post #16
Causality1 wrote: post #2

For me it's a simple equation that has as much to do with time and hassle as it has to do with money. I'm not going to juggle five different monthly subscriptions. I'll pay Netflix for their decent original content and all my old favorites like Star Trek. I'll buy a month of Hbo every couple years to catch up with them. I'm not going to pay $200 for a cable subscription and I'm not going to pay for Netflix and YouTub…

I bought a Chromecast because it worked with Netflix and stupid cheap. It is convenient! Then comes Amazon Prime and says I need to buy another dongle to watch them. I am so not interested. Grow up, work together with Google, I can't care less whatever petty competition you are playing, your problem not mine. I will just pirate the things I wanted from Prime.

It won't help you quite yet, but Google and Amazon resolved their issues around this in April[0] and their press release says you'll be able to watch Prime Video on your Chromecast later in the year.

[0] - https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-det...

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Post by esoterica »

netwanderer3 wrote: post #74

Nobody has mentioned the real problem is that most Hollywood movies these days are recycled garbage. People are probably going to switch from Netflix over to Disney+ once it is launched. Once Netflix is gone, Disney+ would then jack up its price to $40/month. I think we have all seen this movie too many times before.

Are you implying that Disney movies (lol Star Wars 2929384) are less recycled than other studios' movies?
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