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The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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Some publishers/authors really organize reviews by sending preview copies of books to reviewers.

I am one of those. I had an advance copy, loved it and posted my review. Feel free to challenge anything in my review: http://amzn.to/hDRfVB

Here's the link unshortened and without referer code: http://www.amazon.com/review/R2UY4C560D3VID

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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I'm apprehensive about Tim Ferriss. I've read 4HWW, and found it to have some good advice, as well a a significant amount of fluff. The announcement of "The 4-Hour Body", with lists like this on the book, have only increased my skepticism and apprehension. I enjoy fitness. I've worked out four to five days a week for the past seven years, first at a climbing gym, and then with Crossfit. I've competed in fitness compe…

You've clearly never ran 50 km in one go. You're talking 5 intense months to safely train minimum, for a person who can run 5 km. Training for a 50 km isn't "just aerobics", it's also about strengthening your bones and ligaments and developing the mental tools you'll need to finish. It's about learning what your body needs to stay hydrated. Learning how to minimize calorie use. Learn how to run through the walls (yes…

A marathon is 42K and people run those all the time with minimal training. Puff Daddy only trained for 8 weeks. Every yuppie in NYC has met at least a half dozen out of shape office workers who have a mid life crisis and decide to run a marathon in 12 weeks.

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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You've clearly never ran 50 km in one go. You're talking 5 intense months to safely train minimum, for a person who can run 5 km. Training for a 50 km isn't "just aerobics", it's also about strengthening your bones and ligaments and developing the mental tools you'll need to finish. It's about learning what your body needs to stay hydrated. Learning how to minimize calorie use. Learn how to run through the walls (yes…

A marathon is 42K and people run those all the time with minimal training. Puff Daddy only trained for 8 weeks. Every yuppie in NYC has met at least a half dozen out of shape office workers who have a mid life crisis and decide to run a marathon in 12 weeks.

8 weeks according to him. Try it and get back to me.

You aren't going to go from a 5k to a 50k in 12 weeks and remain injury-free, sorry.

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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you dont do the same routine every day; you do a 3-day split. I guarantee you if we did a study of 1,000 americans who did 4 hours per day and rotated their weights and cardio vs. Tim's method; 95% would be in much better shape my way. and the 5% who dont cant put on weight. " 1 point by swombat 3 minutes ago | link | parent A great many people (also known as "hard-gainers") will not gain any muscle whatsoever by exe…

The point is why bother? You can get exactly the same or better results in terms of fat loss and muscle gain doing 2 or 3 30-40 minute HIT workouts a week. The only way you can do a real 4 hour per day workout is if you're a pro athlete and have the rest of the day off to rest and eat. Cardio and most bodyweight exercises are a waste of time if you're not doing them for sport-specific training but just to shed fat. T…

lol this is the worst advice ever. no you cant get "the same or better results". my god, no wonder people in america buy this crap. you are on hn and you even believe it.

based on the condition tim is in (ie what he looks like), tim ferriss can bench 275 lbs 10x. and he can run a sub 6 minute mile. and yes, that does get him girls. ha ha.

he got that way by writing best selling books that allow him to work out at the gym 4 hours a DAY!

lol. i might be going to hell. but so is he. and its true.

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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In this article, http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_trai... It claims that your body can only synthesize about 2 pounds of dry muscle mass per month. 34 pounds in 28 days is roughly a pound of muscle per day . I've always found myself wanting more evidence to back that up, or even just seeing more examples of people saying they've done that. The closest I've heard to getting that kind of result a…

The one thing that seems pretty blatantly overlooked in this whole discussion is that genetics have __alot__ to do with body building. I guarantee you that if everyone reading this thread mimicked Tim's 28 day plan exactly, that no where near 100% of us would produce the same results (assuming the plan actually did as he claims).

Some people are just predisposed to bulking up. It's interesting to peruse body-building forums and see tons of people very dedicated to their sport all following the same recommended training regimens yet getting vastly varying results. It's not that the effort isn't there.

I know, I should be providing links to back-up my claim, but I should also be working to meet my company's big milestone due tomorrow. :-)

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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Exactly. And when he's talking about winning the martial arts fights, he goal was to "WIN", not to play the game. And like gursikh says, either put up or shut up. We need concrete examples! Overall, I think Tim has done a lot for a lot of people with the ideas that he shares in his books.

Exploiting rule loopholes in obscure Chinese kickboxing events doesn't constitute much of a "WIN", especially with his subsequent presentation of himself as a "world champion" and "experienced mixed martial artist". All up, a call for "concrete examples" is exactly what should be going on. From Tim. Not from the unbeliever. The cliche is "the onus of proof is on the believer". Tim's extraordinary claims about drug-fr…

You have misunderstood me. It doesn't matter if Tim is wrong, if we don't know what is right. If you substantiate your criticisms by finding counter-evidence or disputing his evidence, you add value to the conversation by pointing people in the right direction.

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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1. Measure what you eat. 2. Brief, intense, and regular workouts. 3. Repeat every day.

Don't workout every day, only twice a week.

5. It matters what you eat. 6. Stay dedicated to the routines partly through limiting your choices and partly through creating accountability

Re: The 4-Hour Body: (Quickly) Hacking The Human Body

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Though I don't agree with everything Tim advocates in his first book and feel, like yourself, that some of it is disingenuous, I do find a lot of value in it for the same reason I value any book: it got me to question the way I think. One line from the 4HWW "Ask for forgiveness, not permission," can change the way you address challenges for the rest of your life. I'm really looking forward to seeing what insights he'…

""Ask for forgiveness, not permission," can change the way you address challenges for the rest of your life." But overdo it and people will think you're an asshole.

Sure, depending on the context.
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