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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by unicornfinder »

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

I would add to this that I genuinely don't think that the keyboard failures are due to dust - it seems far more likely to me that the switches are simply failing due to poor design.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by VectorLock »

thsowers wrote: post #7

Wish there was an option to buy a 15 inch with no touch bar. I cannot find any suitable use for it on my current model, and I often hit items inadvertently due to the lack of tactile feedback

I feel like this is such a common refrain and yet when a maker like System76 tries to enter this market they still still fuck it all up by jamming a number pad in the side. Why do they all do this?

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by kimi »

alexgaribay wrote: post #4
ddon wrote: post #2

and looks like the same problematic keyboard :-/

It's a new generation of the keyboard. Hopefully it turns out to be way more reliable.

It would be a major achievement to make it less reliable. I have had computers for ~40 years now, and none had a keyboard as bad as the one I'm using now (MBP13, 2018).

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by fredsted »

michaelmior wrote: post #20
ddon wrote: post #2

and looks like the same problematic keyboard :-/

It's really frustrating and I don't really want to go without my machine for the time it would take to fix. Unshaky has really helped in making my keyboard usable. It basically detects and eliminates duplicate keypresses within a configurable threshold for each key. https://unshaky.nestederror.com/

To me it’s absolutely insane that people have gone to the lengths of actually writing software in order to fix a very basic issue with an extremely expensive luxury product of the worlds largest company. One in this thread mentioned using tape to cover up the Touch Bar in order to avoid triggering it accidentally!

Apple ducked up big time with the post-2015 generation MacBooks, and it was caused by the weird hunt for thinness and gimmicky features which nobody want from a professional portable workstation.

"Thinner than a 2015 MacBook Pro" is last on most people’s wishlists. What good is a thin laptop if the keyboard fails and the performance you pay for can't be used since the operating temperature is too high?

It says a lot about a company when a large amount of customers just don’t care for the new features and they just want the new performance in the old form factor.

It’s like the ones who made the current generation never uses a laptop, and has no idea about how people are actually using the product.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by askafriend »

bazooka_penguin wrote: post #65
nothis wrote: post #46

I checked their store out of curiosity. Switching from 512MB to 1TB SSD: +$400 WHY? This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Apple pricing. I get that you pay for the design, I get the quirks like introducing touch bar, everything. But I don't get why upgrading from a $50 to a $100 SSD adds 400 dollars.

This sort of "upgrade" nickel and diming is true of every laptop vendor, but Apple is definitely one of the worst. It's like their pricing structure is stuck in 2012

The SSDs they use really do cost that much though. Even if you got them from another manufacturer they'd be about that expensive. Apple don't use cheap SSDs...they use blazing fast, top of the line units not found on many other laptops.

If you have criticism, price isn't a valid one.

But you can definitely argue that they should have cheaper/slower options so that consumers who don't need blazing fast SSDs can still benefit from increased storage.

Here's how the 2018 Macbook's SSD stacks up against the competition: https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2018/07/macbookprossdt...

That's why there's such a huge price difference. Not because they're randomly picking high upgrade prices to screw customers.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by TimTheTinker »

andyfleming wrote: post #41
thsowers wrote: post #7

Wish there was an option to buy a 15 inch with no touch bar. I cannot find any suitable use for it on my current model, and I often hit items inadvertently due to the lack of tactile feedback

I've been using MacBook Pro's with the touch bar for a while now, but I just picked up a MacBook Air (in addition to my MacBook Pro). It has a mechanical top row, with just the Touch ID button at the end and it's fantastic. It's so nice to have those keys back! I would pay $100 extra for a MacBook Pro without the touch bar. Here's the keyboard in all its glory (if you're curious): https://www.apple.com/newsroom/image…

I actually really like the touch bar. I'd enjoy my 2016 MBP if it wasn't for the 2 keys that are now unreliable on the keyboard. That and the fact that it crashes every time the battery runs out.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by mmartinson »

I'm currently using the last, best 2015 macbook, and having tried a newer model as a work computer for a short while previously, am dreading the day I need to think about replacing it.

How about this apple. "macbook util". The pro line can keep the thin delicate stuff. Give me the 2015 case, screen, keyboard, and magsafe, with some new internals and a usb-c. I'd happily hand over my money.

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