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VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by bdamm »

mach5 wrote: post #68
bdamm wrote: post #34

After the terrible treatment I received as a Volkswagen TDI customer, I will never buy another VW. Period. They fraudulently sold me a car, then managed to finangle their way out of any financial restitution by putting up not only extensive hurdles for customers who wanted to opt for restitution instead of return, they then penalized customers who experienced delays due to their internal system faults by simply rejec…

not sure what your problem was, i had two TDI's and did buybacks for both and, though it took a while, the experience was pleasant and the offer was generous.

The problem was I couldn't do a buyback due to my life situation - I was not in a place, at the time, where I could just give up the car and go get another one without major disruption. Think days off work. So I opted for restitution.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by bdamm »

thedaemon wrote: post #56
ilamont wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you give more details? Was this related to the emissions scandal?

Yes. They didn't want to return their car and VW wanted everyone to return their car. So if you waited too long to return it.. you didn't get any money back. So this customer is butt hurt over getting better gas mileage and not getting a check. Entitlement.

In addition to the fine reply by another commentator, I'd like to point out that the amount of paperwork I had to do was enormous. I spent several days in aggregate working to get it done. It was more complex than most, since I had moved states with the car. That's time out of my life, time stolen from work and from my family. And due to internal faults in their system their acceptance of my work was delayed and I ended up getting the car to the dealer 2 days after the deadline.

Butthurt? Call it that if you want. But after that, I'm voting with my wallet and never buying another one.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by philjohn »

urda wrote: post #67
thedaemon wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. They didn't want to return their car and VW wanted everyone to return their car. So if you waited too long to return it.. you didn't get any money back. So this customer is butt hurt over getting better gas mileage and not getting a check. Entitlement.

Buying a product when told it has X features and specifications then receiving said product with Y features and specifications and then becoming upset over it as a consumer isn't "entitlement".

And when VW offered to buy back the defective product they declined.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

blattimwind wrote: post #70
ody4242 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mercedes

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44444361

That was in 2018, for 700+K vehicles (Mercedes C-Class, Vito and GLC) .

They were caught again this April, with the same defeat device hidden in the GLK models.

>The country's vehicle regulator has begun a formal investigation after discovering a new device in the company's Mercedes-Benz model GLK 220 CDI, the Bild am Sonntag newspaper reported.

https://www.dw.com/en/daimler-new-emissions-cheating-softwar...

How criminal…

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

kaicianflone wrote: post #63

I don't know how we're trusting a company that lied about emissions to create the next generation of electric cars. After the TDI and TSI scandals, I know many people who hope this brand does not survive. I will never buy a VW, Porsche, or Audi if my life depended on it.

What brand do you recommend then, one that does not deceive or lie about their cars' emissions?

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by Tcepsa »

mikestew wrote: post #59
kvakvs wrote: post #28

What game industry and preorders have taught us — never do any preorders until the real thing is out and first reviews start coming in.

The only regret with pre-ordering a Nissan Leaf before release was that the company Nissan hired to run the pre-orders fucked it up. People who ordered up to six months after we did got their cars months before we did. But when we were finally given a hard date, it showed up on that date, and we've been happy with it since. The only reason I don't jump in line for the ID is because my wife and I are really hoping the…

If this[0] is what you're talking about, my wife and I also really want it to be a thing! (EDIT: If it's not, would you mind posting a link?)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_I.D._Buzz

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by uxp100 »

cesarb wrote: post #12
mfatica wrote: post #2

Christ they couldn't come up with a better image than that?? Is that really what the thing looks like?

For some reason, automakers seem to like to cover their under-development vehicles in garish camouflage. Like this one from 2016: https://electrek.co/2016/07/27/daimler-etruck-first-all-elec...

It makes it hard to determine details of the body shapes from candid photos.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by colechristensen »

electriclove wrote: post #46

This is great news and now we need them to deliver (and not delay/back out). I hope they sell a ton. We really need an entrenched player to fully commit to selling EVs. If VW goes all-in, everyone else will have to follow suit. Tesla needs to keep the pressure on.

I love my Volkswagen but I'm instantly put off the id3. I'll wait for an electric Jetta or more likely run what I have into the ground to avoid the new cockpit nonsense everything has now

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by colechristensen »

milkytron wrote: post #72
razster wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Owned a 2001 Jetta. The number of parts I had to replace became more than the cars worth. I will never own a VW anything because of the terrible reliability.

When did these issues start happening? I own a 2009 rabbit and have no faced any issues beyond routine maintenance. Guess I should knock on wood.

Ditto for an 09 Jetta, I love it. I vaguely remember reading about VW going through significant quality improvements in the mid '00s.
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