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Hasn't the crime expired?
No it hasn't. There's so much misinformation in this area that it's funny. The original case was closed since the prosecutor didn't expect a conviction because Assange was hiding under a rock.
> No it hasn't.
IIRC, a couple of the less serious crimes expired but the most serious one remains prosecutable.
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Craig Murray is a former British ambassador.
And current nutjob. Check out his tweets/blogs around the time of the attempted Skripal assassination. His questioning here is clearly in bad faith. Assange successfully evaded justice on most of his charges in Sweden because they have a statute of limitations. It's not something to celebrate. The situation with Assange is all public record. Obama DoJ didn't pursue extradition, Trump DoJ did. Separately to this, Assa…
He regards "bellingcat" as an enemy; they are the supposedly independent blogger producing OSINT that showed the Russian missile launcher used to shoot down MH-17. These days I'm suspicious of people defending the argument that this wasn't Russia.
Senator Joe Manchin explaining Assange's arrest, and some interesting ideas on property; >"I understand they, I understand they intervened on our behalf. >So we're going to extradite him and we're going to get him back, it'll be really good to get him back on United States soil. >He's our property. So we can get the facts and the truth from him." https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1116322371781058561/video/...
get him back?
What a disgraceful episode for our governments, the media, and the public who seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for a blatantly orchestrated smear campaign. I don’t understand what the hell goes through people’s minds when they see such blatantly trumped up and unprovable charges levied against a big-time persona non grata of the CIA/Pentagon and decide to take them at face value. No matter that the US sprung…
EDIT: And tbh I'm not sure how the original arrest warrant for rape could be considered by anyone to be a "technicality".
What a disgraceful episode for our governments, the media, and the public who seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for a blatantly orchestrated smear campaign. I don’t understand what the hell goes through people’s minds when they see such blatantly trumped up and unprovable charges levied against a big-time persona non grata of the CIA/Pentagon and decide to take them at face value. No matter that the US sprung…
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Corollary: As long as he is in a maximum security prison controlled by imperial powers, the public will not be aware of the brainwashing/programming/coercion he is going to be subjected to .. Will we see the same Assange in 50 weeks? This is more than enough time for the masters of MK ULTRA to subvert his will and turn him into a puppet.
I'm trying to decide if this line of thinking is scary or wondrous.
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So where does the real end and the incredible begin, in your opinion? If it appears on Wikileaks it's going to be the truth? Does it end at what's on Wikileaks? What's your requirements for proof to accept incredible, non-milquetoast claims?
The American people should work to de-classify the black sites, and close down Gitmo - only then will the incredible actions of America's ruling elite intelligence classes become fully understood. Yes, read the Wikileaks. Investigate for yourself and move outside the comfortable safety bubble of mainstream mediathink, which makes such acts 'too incredible to be true'. It starts with Wikileaks, but ends with effective…
The exact same sort of obfuscation that you claim is being used to pull the wool over the mainstream could be being used on those who see the "truth", couldn't it? If the message was modified to appeal to your ideals, why is Wikileaks a source that's in any way more trustworthy than the mainstream?
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No it hasn't. There's so much misinformation in this area that it's funny. The original case was closed since the prosecutor didn't expect a conviction because Assange was hiding under a rock.
>> Hasn't the crime expired? > No it hasn't. IIRC, a couple of the less serious crimes expired but the most serious one remains prosecutable.
I suspect that the USA isn't keen to make him a martyr, and that key players recognize the minimal value in prosecuting him now. It will be interesting to see how they utilize this nearly year-long reprieve from Assange's political posturing.
I'm not sure many folks would think of him as a martyr. A lot of the previous good will about leaking important documents seems to have been washed away by Wikileak's crafting things to form their own narratives.
There are many people who continue to hold him in high esteem, despite claims about his organization's ulterior motives.
What a disgraceful episode for our governments, the media, and the public who seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for a blatantly orchestrated smear campaign. I don’t understand what the hell goes through people’s minds when they see such blatantly trumped up and unprovable charges levied against a big-time persona non grata of the CIA/Pentagon and decide to take them at face value. No matter that the US sprung…
Is there a timeline of when the public turned against him. One which compares it to the spread of information/propaganda about his involvement with helping Trump win the election? I wonder if that was a key event in people becoming willing to accept any other information/propaganda that casts Assange in a negative light.