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Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by sl1ck731 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #14

I like Librem, though I am a little concerned here. I prefer if hardware and services comes from different companies. Even well intentioned, it can be easy for a company to fall into vertical integration... Imagine a Librem 5 working best with their own service, and support for alternatives being a little weaker or less prioritized.

I mean that is a significant reason mobile development is fragmented. Some things have to be tailored for the device if you want any kind of mass appeal or reliability.

I think it would be a huge mistake to NOT tailor a specific experience for a Linux phone since it would then be doomed to obscurity (more than just by fact of not being Android or IOS) like the million Linux desktop distributions that never "just get it" out of the box for 99% of people.

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by StudentStuff »

Arathorn wrote: post #78
StudentStuff wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like we are using sqlite and Python 3.5.3, synapse cache factor is currently not set in our config, any pointers for how to migrate to Postgres? This box has basically been given to me after the person who set it up gave up in frustration.

https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/blob/master/docs/postg... has the details. Fwiw, we're addressing the sqlite issue by stopping servers from federating for now if they are on sqlite ( https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/5078 ). Sorry you got bitten by this.

It happens, guessing SQLite was default at one point or suggested by the install guide that was followed. Kinda surprised it has survived thus far, never really thought of SQLite as something for high volume, multi-user messaging.

Gonna go try the migration guide here :P

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by Jenz »

1023bytes wrote: post #16

This is quite dishonest, they make it seem like they develop the apps themselves. But they don't and they give no credit to the actual original apps. Librem Chat = Riot.im Librem Social = Mastodon (specifically the Tusky app) Librem Mail = K9 Mail Librem Tunnel = OpenVPN

> Librem Chat – end-to-end encrypted chat, VOIP, and video calling used by millions of people

> Librem Mail – end-to-end encrypted email used by nearly everybody already

> Librem Tunnel – end-to-end encrypted VPN tunnel proven by millions of users

> Librem Social – public social media with millions of people already active

I was wondering what they meant, _how could the apps of something that haven't yet launched be used by "millions of active users"_.

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by Arathorn »

1023bytes wrote: post #16

This is quite dishonest, they make it seem like they develop the apps themselves. But they don't and they give no credit to the actual original apps. Librem Chat = Riot.im Librem Social = Mastodon (specifically the Tusky app) Librem Mail = K9 Mail Librem Tunnel = OpenVPN

Speaking as the project lead for Matrix - we are hoping that we will see some kind of financial support from Purism to fund the prioritised bugfixes/features/support they need around Synapse and Riot to ensure Librem.one's (and the Librem 5's) success.

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by jolmg »

groovybits wrote: post #53
robrtsql wrote: post #43

> Librem Mail. Main Features: Safe (We delete unencrypted emails after 30 days) I don't understand encrypted email very much at all. Is encryption on emails that I have received controlled by the sender? Almost all of the transactional emails I have received (receipts, confirmation numbers, etc) are probably unencrypted, right? This doesn't sound desirable.

PGP is a two-party system. The sender has a public/private keypair, and the recipient has a public/private keypair. The sender encrypts a message with the sender's priv key and the recipient's pub key. The recipient decrypts the message with the the sender's pub key and the recipient's priv key. > Almost all of the transactional emails I have received (receipts, confirmation numbers, etc) are probably unencrypted, ri…

> The sender encrypts a message with the sender's priv key and the recipient's pub key.

You just need the recipient's public key to encrypt. Are you thinking about the sender adding a cryptographic signature, too?

> The recipient decrypts the message with the the sender's pub key and the recipient's priv key.

You don't need the sender's public key, just the recipient's private key to decrypt. Though, if there's also a cryptographic signature from the sender, then you would need the sender's public key to verify the signature.

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #40

Lots of great criticism on this thread. Lots of great reasons to maybe stay away from Purism. However... What I personally think is really interesting here is the bundle. I don't want to pay $10/month for a Twitter clone. I don't want to pay it for VPN. I don't want to pay it for email, or file storage, or contact manager, or payment system. But as a bundle? $10/month to actually solve all of my digital privacy conce…

This seems to be to basically be the logical conclusion of profitable FLOSS software, no? The entire software stack is free and open-source; what the end-user is paying for is an attached service, like the infrastructure hosting/bandwidth, cloud storage, software support, updates, etc.

It seems preferable to the donation model.

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Post by lallysingh »

cblades wrote: post #25

This is really frustrating, and basically the exact same thread as happened a while back with another list of "ethical alternatives". You can't call something ethical without going into detail about what you mean. and: Policy No Ads No Tracking We respect you is not useful. The value in ethics is in the conversation around what is ethical, not in a big, friendly "this is ethical" sticker. This is as useful as "do no…

.. And what is? It took a long time to define what Open Source meant, and that took some work.

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by oever »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #40

Lots of great criticism on this thread. Lots of great reasons to maybe stay away from Purism. However... What I personally think is really interesting here is the bundle. I don't want to pay $10/month for a Twitter clone. I don't want to pay it for VPN. I don't want to pay it for email, or file storage, or contact manager, or payment system. But as a bundle? $10/month to actually solve all of my digital privacy conce…

ISPs could offer this bundle as part of the internet connection like they (used to) offer an email account and web page.

Re: Librem One – A growing bundle of ethical services

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Post by gdrift »

ufo wrote: post #56
jclay wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the term paywall isn’t the right one. I’m referring to the premise that you must pay the monthly fee to use the product and whether that is really any more ethical than ad supported products that are free for anyone in the world to use regardless of income.

Ad supported products are not free, as you actually pay with your data. It is very insidious.

Again: you pay not only with your data. The cost of advertising is already included in the cost of the product being advertised. You pay for it both ends.
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