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Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by 0xb100db1ade » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM UTC

Communitivity wrote: post #71

Mastodon has been responsible for helping drive a lot of growth in the federated app space. PeerTube for videos, and perhaps a dozen other services (see https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/06/why-activitypub-is-the... for some of them). I also recently found the early but promising Plume project for operating a federated blog ( https://joinplu.me/ ). Icing on the cake? Quite a few of the federated projects are written…

Federated blog?

Is that any different from a regular website?

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by theoh » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 3:24 PM UTC

thejohnconway wrote: post #44

Deimorz wrote: post #15

It doesn't look like there's any federation right now, the test site ( https://dev.lemmy.ml/ ) says "Federation into the ActivityPub network is on the roadmap."

Oh. Activity pub is complex and difficult to implement. The test suite is down. Leaving it to last makes me worry that it won’t happen.

I'm not convinced by ActivityPub. A lot of people seem to think that it's cool but the documentation makes it look like it's just a schema for social media applications. It might be an obvious move to try to standardize social media platforms because they all involve roughly the same kinds of user activities. Interoperability is cool, I agree. But the ActivityPub documentation has a whiff of the old XML/"semantic web" hype about it. It's verbose, unnecessarily object-oriented, and it doesn't seem to advance any kind of new or interesting vision for the architecture of these interconnected systems.

I get that somebody probably needed to do this work of standardization. As a project it seems to lack imagination, though. There is nothing to get excited about as far as I can see. It's just a consolidation of very familiar social media functions.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by sanbor » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 3:38 PM UTC

drivebycomment wrote: post #78

goodells wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing this out. I guess this is something I had assumed Google does by serving the fonts for free, but I never really bothered to look into it. Going to remove all Google Fonts references from my projects now.

Google claims they don't track with fonts: https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq#what_does_using_the_... Whether you believe them or not is up to you of course.

Where does it claims that it does not track?

From your link:

Google Fonts logs records of the CSS and the font file requests, and access to this data is kept secure. Aggregate usage numbers track how popular font families are, and are published on our analytics page. We use data from Google’s web crawler to detect which websites use Google fonts. This data is published and accessible in the Google Fonts BigQuery database. To learn more about the information Google collects and how it is used and secured, see Google's Privacy Policy.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by orthecreedence » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 4:17 PM UTC

goodells wrote: post #72

5trokerac3 wrote: post #67

One suggestion: if you want the federated crowd to jump on board, then choose another font provider than Google, which uses their font links for tracking.

Thanks for pointing this out. I guess this is something I had assumed Google does by serving the fonts for free, but I never really bothered to look into it. Going to remove all Google Fonts references from my projects now.

Keep in mind you can download the fonts and host locally. You don't have to let Google host.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by twic » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

zmlzm wrote: post #9

Cool, written in actix!

Cool, or not cool, depending on whether you ever got over the unsafety scandal around Actix.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by twic » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 4:32 PM UTC

s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #12

The code quality is amazing. Good job.

Given the response to this, i would be interested to hear why you thought the code quality was amazing. We seem to have two people with different ideas about code quality, and perhaps we would all learn something by investigating that difference.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by twic » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 4:34 PM UTC

Insanity wrote: post #68

A2017U1 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the max lines in a single file for a developer "to get fired" at your company?

I do have to say, 2k lines for a single file is scary sounding to me. It would probably make me consider splitting it up. BUT, sometimes things to just logically belong together and having one file to find them is just easier. It's a rediculous metric to use.

Depends a lot on tooling as well. If you have tools that give you effective jump-to-definition, find-usages, etc, then the file structure sort of fades away, because you jump from fragment to fragment without really worrying about what files they are in.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by bisby » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 4:48 PM UTC

0xb100db1ade wrote: post #81

Communitivity wrote: post #71

Mastodon has been responsible for helping drive a lot of growth in the federated app space. PeerTube for videos, and perhaps a dozen other services (see https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/06/why-activitypub-is-the... for some of them). I also recently found the early but promising Plume project for operating a federated blog ( https://joinplu.me/ ). Icing on the cake? Quite a few of the federated projects are written…

Federated blog? Is that any different from a regular website?

I would assume it is just a regular website with some backend for federated discovery.

I don't read many blogs but I would assume having tags or a "more like this" that search across the fediverse could be useful?

Are those things that people have in blogs?

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by goodells » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 5:05 PM UTC

orthecreedence wrote: post #84

goodells wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing this out. I guess this is something I had assumed Google does by serving the fonts for free, but I never really bothered to look into it. Going to remove all Google Fonts references from my projects now.

Keep in mind you can download the fonts and host locally. You don't have to let Google host.

Would one run into licensing issues with this? I'm honestly not sure if their usage is predicated on being served from Google, nor knowledgeable enough about the law to even guess.

Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust

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Post by rakoo » Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 5:05 PM UTC

bisby wrote: post #88

0xb100db1ade wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federated blog? Is that any different from a regular website?

I would assume it is just a regular website with some backend for federated discovery. I don't read many blogs but I would assume having tags or a "more like this" that search across the fediverse could be useful? Are those things that people have in blogs?

Also the whole commenting/liking thing