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Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Re: Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Post by switch007 »

madrileno wrote: post #70
switch007 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> She acts on feeling and ideology. Facts care very little to her. A prior lawyer, judge and member of the General Council of the Judiciary – with a total judicial career of 29 years – cares not for facts?

You know Spain too little my friend!

No seas condescendiente. Me rindo que ella no es perfecta pero por favor si queréis que creamos que sea una idiota total a quien no le importan datos y tales, haznos el favor de explicar y dar mas ejemplos. Y no me parece justo darla por perdida por lo del tráfico, si eso es lo que pasó.

Re: Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Post by tim333 »

vondur wrote: post #74
tim333 wrote: post #51

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Money and politics. It's kind of ironic that the government controlled black cabs "are responsible for about 60 per cent of greater London’s NOx emissions from passenger cars" while the mostly unregulated Ubers are mostly relatively clean Priuses. I gather they are gradually trying to switch the black cabs to electric. https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/black-cabs-taxis-a...

I take it that diesels aren’t required to have DEF to reduce the NOx emissions?

I don't think the black cabs have that.

Re: Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

hevi_jos wrote: post #57

Carmena is communist, an "elpais" is a leftist newspaper. They are partial and you can not trust them on this. Specially now that we are under elections. An 8% difference with last year is nothing in Madrid. Madrid has big differences in pollution depending on what it rains, and specially on the wind. Pollution is bad there when there are anticyclonic weather and thermal inversion. Madrid has very clear skies, it is…

Sure... a Watergate-level scandal has just emerged with the Interior Ministry using the police to spy on Podemos (the leftist party), including stealing mobile phones and hacking cameras, and to manufacture fake news. Some international coverage here (including from the Telegraph which is not precisely suspicious of being "pro-communist"):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/11/spains-election-...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/spain-s-waterga...

Most media in Spain are not saying a single word about this, with others relegating it to small mentions, but Spanish media is controlled by the right and is pro-"communist". Yeah, right.

It's totally respectable to have a right-wing ideology, and there is plenty to criticize in the left. But seriously, if you are educated enough to be posting in an international website like this, you shouldn't be falling for obvious propaganda and spewing our local media's brainwash. Regardless of ideology, no one with a shred of neutrality, critical spirit or care to check different sources can think that Spanish media are biased to the left, let alone towards Podemos and their allies whom are almost universally disliked by all media.

Re: Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Post by gordaco »

javierga wrote: post #65
gordaco wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be mentioned here that in the case of Madrid, the metro is managed by a rightwing party who intentionally reduced the amount of trains when the car restrictions started, in order to cause discontent. See https://www.publico.es/politica/madrid-central-arranca-madri... (sorry for the link in Spanish).

I’ve tried going over the article and cannot find any mention to any right-wing party intentionally reducing the amount of trains. I should disclose that Spanish is my mother tongue. If anyone wants to pour over the article and explain it to me: EMT is the TfL of Madrid, Mayor's office is left-wing, Regional government is right-wing.

Sorry, the article doesn't mention that the regional government is right-wing (my fault), but it does say this: "Sin embargo, en lugar de reforzar el servicio, como prometió hace un mes el presidente del Gobierno regional, Ángel Garrido, la frecuencia de los trenes se ha visto mermada".

Re: Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Post by robertAngst »

kikoreis wrote: post #32
robertAngst wrote: post #21

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Isn't it interesting how we opinions on the lives and decisions halfway across the world- Despite not living there and understanding the complexity of life. I'm an Environmentalist, but whenever I hear about government imposed solutions, I imagine someone's life is terrible. -Elderly folks have a significantly harder time getting necessities -Emergency vehicles take longer due to traffic I won't go on, because I won'…

See other threads for details on the actual program. The restrictions are pretty moderate and have exclusions for local residents etc.

That is a cop-out.

People from halfway around the world call it 'moderate'.

Re: Emissions fall in Madrid city center thanks to new traffic restrictions

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Post by urso »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #83
hevi_jos wrote: post #57

Carmena is communist, an "elpais" is a leftist newspaper. They are partial and you can not trust them on this. Specially now that we are under elections. An 8% difference with last year is nothing in Madrid. Madrid has big differences in pollution depending on what it rains, and specially on the wind. Pollution is bad there when there are anticyclonic weather and thermal inversion. Madrid has very clear skies, it is…

Sure... a Watergate-level scandal has just emerged with the Interior Ministry using the police to spy on Podemos (the leftist party), including stealing mobile phones and hacking cameras, and to manufacture fake news. Some international coverage here (including from the Telegraph which is not precisely suspicious of being "pro-communist"): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/11/spains-election-... https://www.ir…

Please, stop spreading your propaganda in this site. We get you are pro-left. However, that doesn't mean that you're right all the time.
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