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Israel’s Beresheet Spacecraft Moon Landing Attempt Appears to End in Crash

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It seems that they just got a new word in the dictionary: https://mobile.twitter.com/teamspaceil/status/11163129311033... I find it a bit irritating to be that cocky when it comes to space technology. Better luck next time!

Count your blessings. They are the 4th country to reach the Moon (albeit at 1km/s).

US, USSR, and China have successfully landed on the moon.

Japan, ESA, India, and SpaceIL all have crashed on the moon (counting as reached).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_on_the_Moon

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#82
post #13

It seems that they just got a new word in the dictionary: https://mobile.twitter.com/teamspaceil/status/11163129311033... I find it a bit irritating to be that cocky when it comes to space technology. Better luck next time!

Pride comes before a fall . (scnr)

> Pride comes before a fall. (scnr)

Only if your pride is traveling at less than 11.2 km/s.

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#83
post #13

It seems that they just got a new word in the dictionary: https://mobile.twitter.com/teamspaceil/status/11163129311033... I find it a bit irritating to be that cocky when it comes to space technology. Better luck next time!

Count your blessings. They are the 4th country to reach the Moon (albeit at 1km/s).

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#84
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Count your blessings. They are the 4th country to reach the Moon (albeit at 1km/s).

No, they would have been the 4th country to land on the moon. Both ESA and ISRO have previously conducted (intentional) impact missions.

khuey with the correction. Yes they would have been the 4th country to land on the moon. They settled to be the 7th country to orbit.

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#85
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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, and I'm sure they didn't get any tech or mission critical help from the US. Don't get me wrong, good on them for doing this, but let's not pretend like this happened in a bubble away from anyone else.

If you read the article it says a SpaceX rocket brought them into space in the first place

Also a private, albeit subsidized, company.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a population of < 3% of the USA, < 1% of China.

Not to mention 0.1% of the budget!

The US and China could (and have) put a probe on the moon for far less than $100B. $100MM is still a great accomplishment, but let's not exaggerate it.

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#88
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post #71

Article subtitle: "The failure of the landing highlighted the risks of a fast and cheap approach to space exploration." I would say the opposite. Not specifically just in reference to this mission but in general. They now have a lot of experience and data to use going forward for "not much" expense. A lot of extremely expensive missions were lost because they didn't have the opportunity to iterate.

The history of rocketry really took off during WW-II, and was further refined by the military (generic, but pretty much the nations that have successfully landed on the moon), further developing and releasing to civilian government, and eventually private interests. If I were to make a guess extrapolation to air-flight we're probably still roughly in the 1940s. Private space flight is making things more standard and…

30s, but OK.

Aircraft production was fully industrial going into the 40s.

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#90
post #48

Do I detect a bit of condescension in NYT's tone? Do we need to remind the numerous failures US & USSR had before they got their space program off the ground? Also, they forgot India who did send a lunar orbiter and sent a probe on Moon's surface back in 2008.

Chandrayaan-1's Moon Impact Probe was an impactor, not a lander.

Both were, in the end.

But this one was going slower.

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