Quick reminder: US citizens have an absolute right to reenter the country. Customs can temporarily detain you, but they cannot refuse entry. Any threat, whether implied or stated, that they will hold you until you unlock your device is not real. They can hold your stuff indefinitely, so be prepared to lose it if you go this route, but never unlock your device based on the idea that it’s the only way to go free. Non-c…
Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airport by border cops
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can they ask for online logins?
For a lot of websites (like Facebook), that's a violation of their ToS and I'm not sure they can ask you to break a contract.
Are allowed to? Maybe, maybe not. Will do anyway? Probably yes.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quick reminder: Non US citizens only go to conferences outside the US. There is no excuse we should put up with this. Canada and EU are much better locations for this reason alone.
Also, don't fly through the US to get to that conference in Canada.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can be as honest as you like. Or just say you don't take data with you when you travel. For security reasons. If it's work related, this is trivial to justify: company policy, trade secrets shouldn't fall in the wrong hands, etc. And even if private, phone theft and identity theft are serious concerns.
OK and engaging full blown paranoia mode: What if they ask me to log into gmail and Office 365 (I use both) so they can see what I was trying to hide?
Doesn't sound that paranoid to me: wasn't there talk already a year ago about trying to force people to log into social media accounts when crossing the border?
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#88I'm hoping that manufactures will start building a plausible deniability user profile you can log into while leaving your actual profile encrypted, appearing to be slack space. This kind of thuggery seems to be getting more common.
You don't have to specify that you consider customs agents thieves, that's just up to you if you wanna put that lil' spin on it.
(But for real, this seems to me to be a bulletproof way to both make sure TSA can't access data on your device AND make sure you get pulled aside "randomly" for an extra-long questioning session.)
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, don't fly through the US to get to that conference in Canada.
Is it a risk if you stay in the airport, in the secure zone? (Whatever it's called...I've flown rarely over the past couple of decades.)
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#90"...he clammed up, taking the Fifth, and citing constitutional rights against unwarranted searches. ...border agents told him he had no constitutional nor any legal protections, and threatened him with criminal charges should he not concede to the search. ...he was eventually allowed to leave with his belongings, the devices still locked, and no charges were pressed." My goodness! I guess those protections did exit a…
Security may ask you to turn them back on, not to search them, but to verify that they are actual working devices, and not a bomb.