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Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by idlewords »

Despegar wrote: post #7
whatshisface wrote: post #4

> This service will combine stories from newspapers, websites, and magazines into a new tab in the Apple News app on iPhones, iPads, and Macs. > Apple plans to charge about $10 a month. Is it just me, or is there no way this could possibly be worth it? Hacker News and Reddit already combine stories from newspapers and websites, and they do it for free. I have a hard time believing that a managed source selected from…

Hacker News and Reddit don't license content from the WSJ, which is why every story has some guy in the comments with a link to outline.com that pirates the article.

Yarrrr

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by necubi »

To me, the clear indication that they're serious about this transition to services will be making them available on third-party devices. Android has ~55% market share in the US, and >80% globally. Roku has 35% of the smart TV market (through both their dedicated devices and TV integrations), Apple has ~15%.

A video streaming service that's only available on iOS and Apple TV will be inevitably niche, and no real competition for Netflix. This also means they will likely have to pay a premium for content (and a _much_ larger amount per user) as creators will prefer to be on platforms where more people will see their work.

But ultimately, supporting Android and 3rd party streaming devices goes against Apple's DNA. Apple still sees itself as a hardware company, and software and services exist to give people reasons to buy their hardware.

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by mclightning »

yuchi wrote: post #28

I had the hardest time parsing the title. For a moment I thought it was talking about a new company, from apple, specialized in digital transformation or similar (“Reinvention as a Service”)

I felt the same thing, I thought Real Monday was like a service they are starting lol

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by gonyea »

Apple has completely lost its way under Cook that it’s now just rent seeking. They’re just scrambling to fill a $$$ hole for their investors at this point.

Apple is incredibly bad at building services and has been for their entire existence. They cannot multi-task and things will languish for 2-3 years at a time.

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by hiei »

stringgames wrote: post #65
nradov wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could even bundle in a MacBook, iPad, and watch at a higher price tier so that the hard core Apple fans could pay a single monthly subscription fee and always have the latest model of every device.

I wonder if a subscription fee for hardware would appeal to businesses.

Doubt it - most businesses barely want to shell 5-10$/mo for a single user license of software.

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by gonyea »

gonyea wrote: post #85

Apple has completely lost its way under Cook that it’s now just rent seeking. They’re just scrambling to fill a $$$ hole for their investors at this point. Apple is incredibly bad at building services and has been for their entire existence. They cannot multi-task and things will languish for 2-3 years at a time.

Lmao at every critical Apple comment getting downvotes. What Apple service routinely gets feature enhancements every year?

Apple cannot walk and chew gum at the same time.

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

hiei wrote: post #86
stringgames wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if a subscription fee for hardware would appeal to businesses.

Doubt it - most businesses barely want to shell 5-10$/mo for a single user license of software.

Yeah, but they're already paying for hardware.

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

adamson wrote: post #80
TheSoftwareGuy wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I don’t think anyone has been impressed by apple online services or technologies on their own merits... I disagree with that. iMessage is perhaps the best IM service out there. iCloud works seeessly across devices, in a way im not sure any other cloud storage solution does

I imagine it’s a lot easier to integrate your storage service with devices when you have the freedom to change the storage APIs on said devices as you see fit

Never let it be said that vertical integration is without significant benefits :-)

Re: Apple's Reinvention as a Services Company Starts for Real Monday

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Post by andor »

necubi wrote: post #83

To me, the clear indication that they're serious about this transition to services will be making them available on third-party devices. Android has ~55% market share in the US, and >80% globally. Roku has 35% of the smart TV market (through both their dedicated devices and TV integrations), Apple has ~15%. A video streaming service that's only available on iOS and Apple TV will be inevitably niche, and no real compe…

"To me, the clear indication that they're serious about this transition to services will be making them available on third-party devices"

This just happened:

"Apple is putting iTunes on Samsung TVs" - https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/6/18170797/samsung-2019-tvs-...

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