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Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by a_wild_dandan »

breck wrote: post #77
godzillabrennus wrote: post #52

I have had a Google Voice number since it was Grand Central. It has gone on all of my business cards. It's at the bottom of every email. I put it on my website. Google does an amazing, world class, mind blowing, job of filtering out robo calls. I get maybe one a week at most. I get more calls direct to my cell number from random call bots that hit every number with mobile carriers than I do through my Google Voice nu…

> It's past time for Apple to integrate spam call filtering into iOS Yes! I have 2 dozen numbers "blocked" on my iPhone but the robocalls keep coming. I wish there was a "Report Spam" (Gmail) equivalent on iOS that employed smarter rules so I didn't have to manually blocking one number at a time (that's likely a throwaway account anyway).

Blocking numbers won't deter anything, FYI. Those spam calls spoof random numbers (often using your area code). I've received a spam call from myself.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by undeadsushi »

nemothekid wrote: post #50
dividuum wrote: post #41

Sounds like a technical solution for a problem that just needs regulation and laws. I'm in Germany. I never had a ad/scam call on my cellphone number in basically 20 years. I get some kind of poll call every two months on my landline number. That's all.

Don't quote me on this, but I do believe there are regulations and laws preventing this - but just as the article states they are impossible to enforce given our current infrastructure. Fines are meaningless to a blackhat organization doing spoof calls over VoIP somewhere in India.

Last Week with John Oliver & Reply All both went into details with there most recent episodes, but something changed in federal policy with the Do Not Call list.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by snazz »

a_wild_dandan wrote: post #81
breck wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's past time for Apple to integrate spam call filtering into iOS Yes! I have 2 dozen numbers "blocked" on my iPhone but the robocalls keep coming. I wish there was a "Report Spam" (Gmail) equivalent on iOS that employed smarter rules so I didn't have to manually blocking one number at a time (that's likely a throwaway account anyway).

Blocking numbers won't deter anything, FYI. Those spam calls spoof random numbers (often using your area code). I've received a spam call from myself.

You sure it wasn’t just a single digit off from your phone number? I’ve never gotten a call from myself. Is Caller ID that insecure?

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

#84

Post by runarberg »

drusepth wrote: post #70
phaer wrote: post #49

I read a lot about the plague that robocalls are on international forums, especially from the U.S. But I live in central Europe, Austria, and received only two SPAM calls in my whole life, both by what seemed to be actual human agents on the other side and hear from similar amounts from friends I've asked about the phenomena. Can someone explain why it seems such hard to resolve problem elsewhere while it seems hardl…

It could have something to do with data sharing, which people in the US (myself included) seem to do more of compared to e.g. those in europe (in my experience). I get 10+ robo/spam calls a day (to the point where I just gave up on answering all unknown numbers over a year ago) but when I do answer the occasional one they seem surprisingly targeted. I was searching for health insurance a few months ago and that spawn…

> It could have something to do with data sharing.

Hardly. I got my first robo call (ever) within an hour of getting my first US phone number. They have been a constant annoyance for me ever since. I have never gotten a robocall outside of the US.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by Taniwha »

I get none, our house has an asterisk box that does voicemail and provides individual VM for everyone at home - it means that anyone calling in has to dial a single digit extension, I haven't had a robocall in years

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by [deleted] »

dividuum wrote: post #41

Sounds like a technical solution for a problem that just needs regulation and laws. I'm in Germany. I never had a ad/scam call on my cellphone number in basically 20 years. I get some kind of poll call every two months on my landline number. That's all.

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Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by Shivetya »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #52

I have had a Google Voice number since it was Grand Central. It has gone on all of my business cards. It's at the bottom of every email. I put it on my website. Google does an amazing, world class, mind blowing, job of filtering out robo calls. I get maybe one a week at most. I get more calls direct to my cell number from random call bots that hit every number with mobile carriers than I do through my Google Voice nu…

too bad businesses that have google voice numbers come across Verzion without any id so I have let them go to voice mail.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by ylere »

snazz wrote: post #83
a_wild_dandan wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blocking numbers won't deter anything, FYI. Those spam calls spoof random numbers (often using your area code). I've received a spam call from myself.

You sure it wasn’t just a single digit off from your phone number? I’ve never gotten a call from myself. Is Caller ID that insecure?

Yes. The number is just a property and can be pretty much anything. Same goes for SMS, by the way.

Re: Eliminating Robocalls

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Post by snazz »

unixhero wrote: post #37
degenerate wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually hoping that robocalls are the downfall of the PSTN and big telcos. They are immovable monsters and have outlived their reign in this world.

Except when we provide you 4g and 5g coverage, ensure societies have working critical infrastructure to communicate peer to peer and in addition gives you a nice fiber pipe to your house and handle all the carrier dealings of broadband interconnectivity. Oh yeah and tie this all together with advanced roaming deals and functionality which connects countries around the world. It's also us who pioneer and really implem…

> pioneer and really implement GDPR and stand in the trenches for privacy governance.

And then go sell location data to all sorts of shady characters?

A few examples:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18857220

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=phone%20location%20data&sort=b...

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=bounty&sort=byPopularity&prefi...

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