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Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

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Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#81
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What about the American mind makes electric scooters so alluring? That statement sounds ridiculous.

I don’t know and I can’t explain it. If you mention a train to an American they will start talking about how far it is from Miami to Seattle as if that matters and despite the fact that Ohio is more densely populated than Spain. If you bring up walking someone will ask how you can walk home from the grocery store, apparently unaware of the fact that 95% of people bring home their food by foot. If you talk about bikin…

I have noticed the same thing just in general society unrelated to Americans. When you propose an alternative that works 95% of the time people will find that edge case where it doesn't work and refuse to acknowledge the solution.

A similar related event was when stop lights got converted to LEDs. In some areas in some times of the year there would be snow that covers up the light which now no longer runs hot enough to melt it. News at the time sensationalized this issue making it seem like the LED stop lights were bad despite the obvious solution being to just put a heater on the light to run in those areas on those few days where it is needed.

When people suggest getting to work by bike they don't expect you to only ever use a bike for the rest of your life but to cut out the needless car trips that could be done by bike and leave the car until it is needed. The money you save on not using a car multiple times a day would easily pay for a taxi in the rare case you need it.

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#82

I still think Bird's success is merely symptomatic of American shortsighted solutions to systemic US urban planning issues. I doubt this will reach the same level of popularity in cities/countries with great public transit, highly walkable streets, and good existing last mile solutions (bikeshares, bikelanes, high bus coverage), but I'm happy to eat my words if I'm just not seeing it and folks from Amsterdam, Seoul,…

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Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#83

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I see these scooters as somewhat good for the society if it'd be accompanied by enforcement- proper docks or allotted areas and no riding on the sidewalk and following the rules of traffic flow. As it is right now it's a mobility issue for the disabled. I come from a country with no sidewalks with the disabled forever left to the mercy of their caretakers. I was simply amazed by the level of planning to accommodate t…

I hear that complaint and I think it was certainly more true when first launched, at least in Seattle and DC. Nowadays it seems like people are parking them better on average

I’m in Denver. I’ve seen no change. Plus we have numerous different companies operating now. I regularly see them blocking the sidewalk entirely or all of them have been toppled over.

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#85
post #61

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> I doubt this will reach the same level of popularity in cities/countries with great public transit, highly walkable streets, I hope you are right. The littering / parking isn't the biggest problem or nuisance. It's the fact that the riders of these "e-scooters" almost always ride on the sidewalks / footpaths and cause safety hazard to pedestrians. Forget the fact that it's illegal[1] in most states to ride a motori…

> It's the fact that the riders of these "e-scooters" almost always ride on the sidewalks / footpaths and cause safety hazard to pedestrians. It's more dangerous to ride them on streets, even on bike paths. Who cares if it's illegal? I'd rather ride on the sidewalk then get hit by a car trying to pass me at 45 mph.

  It's more dangerous to ride them on streets, even on bike paths. Who cares if it's illegal?
The same would apply to motorcycles. It's clearly safer for the motorcyclist to ride on the sidewalk than on the road, in the mix with cars.

Who cares if it's illegal? Pretty much everyone else.

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#86
post #13

Meanwhile in San Francisco we are stuck with two unknown companies, a very low amount of scooters, no scooters in the evening (after 9pm I think?), and you can't ride one if you don't have a driver license. For a tech-pole, it is quite a backward city.

You need a driver's license? Why?

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#87
post #13

Meanwhile in San Francisco we are stuck with two unknown companies, a very low amount of scooters, no scooters in the evening (after 9pm I think?), and you can't ride one if you don't have a driver license. For a tech-pole, it is quite a backward city.

You need a driver's license? Why?

No idea.

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#88
post #13

Meanwhile in San Francisco we are stuck with two unknown companies, a very low amount of scooters, no scooters in the evening (after 9pm I think?), and you can't ride one if you don't have a driver license. For a tech-pole, it is quite a backward city.

Do you think riding a scooter that can go 20mph shouldn't require a driving licence - which is a very low bar in the states I believe.

Motorized bikes don't require one.

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#89

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You can ride a bike much faster with no license.

Well it's a given bike riders should be licensed and plated. It's insane that in many places bike riders using the public roads don't require 3rd party insurance.

So you shouldn't be able to ride a bike until you're 18? All of that because cars? Good joke.

Re: Bird CEO on scooter startup copycats, unit economics, safety and seasonality

#90
post #38

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For what purpose other than locking kids and poor people out of the world and worsening traffic and health issues. If 2 cyclists crash in to each other they will cause minimal property damage and any medical costs should be covered by the government. There are so many other situations where people can accidentally cause property damage that don't require insurance. Its just the cars have a very high risk of causing h…

If 2 cyclists crash in to each other they will cause minimal property damage Cyclists hitting pedestrians have caused death in SF.

because cars haven't...
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