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U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers
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#82Honestly this is a good thing. Right now the H1B is a bullshit immigration program for cheap engineers from India and China designed to depress wages in silicon valley. A change is sorely needed, this is not big enough but it's definitely a step.
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#83now i can go to US too
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#84As an H1B holder in tech without a masters degree, I'm conflicted. On one hand this may help industries other than tech to get more foreign applicants. But it does nothing to gauge talent or prefer talented people. Getting into a US college and continuing my higher education was always a dream for me but it never came to fruition because of my family background. If this process is left to market to decide - by way of…
I'm a prospective H1B applicant also without a US master's degree, and I think, while this does hurt people in our situation, the argument that the H1B must preferentially select talented people is flawed. The O1 visa category (for so-called aliens of extraordinary ability) is reserved for that purpose already, and is more stringent in terms of criteria.
The H1B is a general-purpose skilled labour visa. It's designed to meet the needs of US companies who need to bring in specialized labour that the American labour pool cannot staff - not talented, but specialized. A master's degree at the least (and I don't recall the process needing it to be a master's degree from the States, though I could be misremembering and this would undo my point) is a good proxy for specialization.
Outside of conforming to visa intent better, I think this change makes sense given the current caps on H1B issuance. If you're going to cap total H1Bs issued in an year to 85,000, why not favour the degree class that correlates better with talent (even if it's not a perfect predictor as has been pointed out)?
I also doubt that this will affect that many people - raising the limit from 20,000 reserved entries for master's students (currenr case) to 25,000 means 5,000 fewer people without a master's get their H1Bs. In any given year, the chances of getting an H1B are 33% anyway (applications dwarf yearly caps by a factor of 3). It's a barely noticeable blip in what's already a painful immigration process.
I would certainly like the US to have a progressive immigration policy. But I expect immigration policies to serve US interests, and this change does.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
They should also work on a visa system for seasonal (low-skill) workers and enforce e-verify so that people don't skirt the system willy-nilly. We need foreign low skilled workers and they want to work, but we need to regulate that workforce so they don't undercut our native low-skills workforce by being unregulated and overwhelming the workforce with cheap unregulated labor.
I think you’re putting the cart before the horse. Why is there a shortage of low skilled workers in a country of 400m? Because you have illegal workers who’ve driven the price of that work below what the market legally supports. If the law was effectively enforced those low skilled jobs would pay enough for Americans
We are in agreement. We need some low skills workers, we don’t need all the unregulated low skills workers we have. Instead of 10-15mill, whatever the estimate is, we could probably use 4mill regulated foreign low skills workers to balance economic labor needs with giving and affording our own low skills workers an opportunity to make a living wage. We know it’s possible. We had it in the 70s, 80s, before our low skills workers were undercut in price.
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#86As an H1B holder in tech without a masters degree, I'm conflicted. On one hand this may help industries other than tech to get more foreign applicants. But it does nothing to gauge talent or prefer talented people. Getting into a US college and continuing my higher education was always a dream for me but it never came to fruition because of my family background. If this process is left to market to decide - by way of…
Get an online MS in CS from either Georgia Tech ($10k) or UIUC ($20k) and you are set. Your degree will be exactly the same as on-site ones and you can do it in 2-3 years.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't get citizenship by giving birth in the US. And asylum is a special case, it's not really a normal immigration route.
Not the person giving birth but the progeny. Most countries ~164 out of 194) are jus sanguinis (you inherit nationality of parent(s)) we are one of the exceptions with jus soli. We even have “birth tourism” taking advantage of our liberal policy.
False; pretty much all of the Americas are jus soli.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Total number of visas are not increased but people with US Masters degree will have a higher chance of winning the lottery. I am not a lawyer but based on my reading of the law USCIS is likely going to lose in court over this. Here is the relevant text of the law[1]: --- (5) The numerical limitations contained in paragraph (1)(A) shall not apply to any nonimmigrant alien … who … (C) has earned a master’s or high…
> Implication that students with US masters degree are high skilled is pretty lame because majority of these students are from fly by night universities that do not even need GRE for admission Are you arguing that people with less education are on average more valuable? If you don't believe that it matters, then why do you care? It would be a purely neutral move. I don't see anything wrong with that. If you think tha…
What is fundamentally wrong, if anything, with people with less education being more valuable? Would you rather have three engineers with an undergrad degree or one with a master's? Where do you draw the line?
In my experience advanced degrees do not equate expertise -- if anything, professionally, it's the opposite.
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#89As an H1B holder in tech without a masters degree, I'm conflicted. On one hand this may help industries other than tech to get more foreign applicants. But it does nothing to gauge talent or prefer talented people. Getting into a US college and continuing my higher education was always a dream for me but it never came to fruition because of my family background. If this process is left to market to decide - by way of…
I totally agree. Instead of putting the focus on degrees, the H1B program should have a wage floor. If the minimum H1B salary was, say, 150k a year (dependent on local cost-of-living), it would ensure companies would only use high quality H1Bs for high value work.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
What a weird world we live in though, where PhDs and Masters with a steady job still have to wait 7-10+ years for citizenship, while people can just flip over the fence in the southern border and get citizenship via asylum or birthing kids
You can't get citizenship by giving birth in the US. And asylum is a special case, it's not really a normal immigration route.
>And asylum is a special case, it's not really a normal immigration route.
If it works it's normal. Just in a different sense.