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Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Where are these chips going to actually end up? Gamers with more money than sense?

HFT

By nature HFT is not highly multithreaded and avoids handoff. So having more cores is not that different than having more discrete CPUs -- no benefits for cache locality/faster coherency.

In that regard if latency is an issue overclocked 8700K (or 8086K) should be sufficient.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

#82

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HFT

Isn't their primary concern latency? I doubt a few GHz boost would do anything for them.

>Isn't their primary concern latency?

It is, but at some point you can't do much more about the network latency; shaving off a couple dozen us, might the difference of getting the price/quote or missing it out. Especially, when you play versus similarly equipped firms.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Most circuits trip on current, because I^2R heating is what causes fires in house wiring, 15A is relatively common, to get power you multiply by voltage which varies by country, in US that gives you 1800W and UK it’s 3600W. There are a ton of circuits which aren’t 15A though. If you live in UK, you might note that electric tea kettles work fine, but in the US they do not (they’re too slow). That’s the biggest practic…

It never occurred to me that the voltage difference between America and Europe/Asia would cause a corresponding differences in watt output given the same amps... But yes indeed, US kettles boil much slower. Other appliances that require a lot of juice include vacuum cleaners, electric hobs, space heaters, portable ACs/dehumidifiers. So having something trip a living room circuit pulling just 2000 watts would drive me…

I live in Japan where we have a paltry 100V. In our apartment it's made by for by having lots of (20A) circuits - 3 for the (small) kitchen alone [which uses gas for the stove anyway]. Total of 14 breakers for a small 3 bedroom + living + kitchen apartment.

In 3 years we've only tripped a breaker once - running a microwave, toaster oven and dishwasher all off the same outlet at once.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

#84
Who needs these chips? I'm honestly curious. I've never worked on something that needed as much single-thread performance as possible and couldn't be parallelized; I'd love to know what industry will use them (and what industry would buy a small number of chips at auction prices).

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Who needs these chips? I'm honestly curious. I've never worked on something that needed as much single-thread performance as possible and couldn't be parallelized; I'd love to know what industry will use them (and what industry would buy a small number of chips at auction prices).

My assumption is they're meant for gaming PCs and will likely all be sold to gaming PC system builders.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

#86

Also notable for a huge increase in TDP from the next-slower model (255 W vs 165 W) - and it has four fewer cores. > Other details about the chip that we have learned include that it will have a listed TDP of 255W, which means the peak power will be higher. Motherboard vendors will have to support 420 amps on the power delivery for the chip (which at 1.3 volts would be 546 watts), and up to 30 amps per core.

550+ watts is insane. That is spaceheater territory. Residential outlets start tripping at 1500-2000 watts. How soon we will have to run even basic gaming machines off multiple outlets.

I remember reading/hearing about a ~2000w PSU about 10 years ago that needed to be run off 2 circuits. Fortunately, SLI never became that popular, and even 1000w PSUs (while readily available) are overkill for most gaming setups, even with 2 GPUs.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

#87

255W TDP for a single socket, holy shit, that pretty much demands a 280mm radiator size water cooling loop setup (2 x 140mm fans).

Pfffft, only 280mm? Time to upgrade: https://www.lytron.com/Cooling-Systems/Standard/Recirculatin...

Reminds me of the people who overclocked a slot based AMD athlon to 1GHz, setting a new record for the time, with a refrigeration loop.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/432/2

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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post #84

Who needs these chips? I'm honestly curious. I've never worked on something that needed as much single-thread performance as possible and couldn't be parallelized; I'd love to know what industry will use them (and what industry would buy a small number of chips at auction prices).

My assumption is they're meant for gaming PCs and will likely all be sold to gaming PC system builders.

Considering no games are built to support 24 threads, most don't even scale past 8 yet, any gamer would be much better off with a 9900k. I don't know who they're targeting with this, but with the 9980xe already being so expensive if someone truly wanted maximum single core performance for games and lots of cores for other things why not buy a 9900k and a 2990wx. More performance for likely a whole lot less.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

#89
post #84

Who needs these chips? I'm honestly curious. I've never worked on something that needed as much single-thread performance as possible and couldn't be parallelized; I'd love to know what industry will use them (and what industry would buy a small number of chips at auction prices).

My workstation has 20 cores/40 threads and a large C++ compile job parallelizes nicely, but the linking phase does not. I could use more single threaded performance to speed up linking of our many libraries and executables.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Quote from the end: "perhaps importantly, there is no warranty from Intel. This means that system builders will not be able to recoup costs on dead silicon, but they might give their own warranty to end users."

I've got this 20GHz bazillion core CPU for a really good price. No warranty, no guarantees, stated or otherwise implied (May or may not work). Call me for price.
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