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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by StreamBright » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:05 PM UTC

darepublic wrote: post #61

StreamBright wrote: post #59

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Imagine the impact on energy consumption having to run these ad blockers + running the ad infrastructure. Global warming, is that you?

So visiting a web page without ublock and the like is akin to idling your car in the morning

If we could visualize how much energy is wasted on ad that would be really good. I think we need an IoC approach for advertising to get this fixed.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by pndy » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #31

I hate to be one of "those people" but I logged out of Facebook on all of my devices on New Year's Eve and haven't been back since. I used to check the site multiple times per day. I thought I'd miss out on a few groups but to be honest the people I know from those groups IRL keep me updated on the rare important announcement - ie a couple of upcoming events. I haven't missed it at all. Full Disclosure: I do still ha…

I'm just checking site via portable browser (while main one has blocked fb stuff) at the end of each month if someone from list wanted something and that's since December 2016. I don't own newest devices (Nokia 1320 with unsupported fb application) so I'm not logged anywhere else.

The service evolved in such way (mainly the changes how posts are being displayed in the feed) it doesn't offer anything I couldn't live without or that would interest me.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by pmontra » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #63

stevewodil wrote: post #56

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What about OnePlus?

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by nailer » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

I had a friend with an undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark in the Samsung web browser. So much for Samsung making 'Premium' smartphones.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by dbuder » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:07 PM UTC

azeirah wrote: post #65

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

My note 9 got preinstalled with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneDrive and LinkedIn. Is that what you call crapware? I mean, I don't use LinkedIn nor OneDrive, and I only occasionally use the others, but these are high-quality pieces of software, you can completely disable these apps natively as well, they're not removed, but they don't impact the system in any way aside from taking up a small chunk of your memory.

LinkedIn is cancer.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Retra » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:08 PM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #60

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

>why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware?

Why make money once when you can make it twice? Where's the incentive for businesses to give you what you want, when you can instead just take what they offer?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by zeusk » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:09 PM UTC

paulie_a wrote: post #79

azeirah wrote: post #65

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My note 9 got preinstalled with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneDrive and LinkedIn. Is that what you call crapware? I mean, I don't use LinkedIn nor OneDrive, and I only occasionally use the others, but these are high-quality pieces of software, you can completely disable these apps natively as well, they're not removed, but they don't impact the system in any way aside from taking up a small chunk of your memory.

If it isnt pure Android, and ships with apps you can't uninstall through normal means, it is crapware. They shouldn't be installed in the first place. And LinkedIn isn't crapware, it's shitware

Google+ and ancillary Google spyware must be installed by default for playstore compatibility test suite to pass.

Is that pure android? Bloat? Crapware? Or just plain shit?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Double_a_92 » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:09 PM UTC

tyfon wrote: post #53

sergiosgc wrote: post #26

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I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

I'm intrigued. I'm not in the market for a new phone right now as the one I have does not mess too much with android either. But for the first time in 15 years I think I might consider a Nokia next time I go shopping...

I also would have gone with Nokia because of their clean software and build quality... But they are doing weird strategies with the European market. E.g. it's almost impossible to get the 64GB version, or if you can it has a massive price increase. Or some good models just don't get released here, like the 6.1 Plus.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by ijidak » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:12 PM UTC

sergiosgc wrote: post #26

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

This is awesome! I had no idea how to find the phones that have better OS support, so I was stuck with the Pixel line.

Is this basically considered stock Android? Or is that yet another tier?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by Double_a_92 » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 2:13 PM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #60

LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too... Alas, it's true. The crapware bloat has infested the entire industry. Sometimes I just don't understand? Don't some of these Samsung phones cost hundreds of dollars? Why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? From software companies like Google and facebook, to hardware behemoths like Samsung, the entire industr…

Most people don't care, or actually even enjoy those apps... They don't seem to care about anything at all that relates to phones. E.g. I've told my relatives multiple times to send me good photos as document in messengers. But nope, 100KB compressed mush it is.