Seems like Apple has forgotten who their customers are... instead they are going for people who worry about specs and technology etc.... this is not kind of apple i have viewed in the past.
The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR
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#82Everyone I know who owns an iPhone XR only got it because they're in some upgrade plan that gives them a new phone every year or two. Nobody actually wants it. There's die-hards who needs the XS because it's the latest and greatest, while those who want something a little cheaper are buying an 8 Plus or original X. I really feel like the XR is a repeat of the original iPhone 7 in that it's a phone with no target audi…
> Everyone I know In the grand scheme of things, and in the overall market, everyone you know still comes out to a rounding error. Don't get too caught up in anecdata. > I really feel like the XR is a repeat of the original iPhone 7 in that it's a phone with no target audience You're right, there. If people want a high-end iPhone, they'd get the XS. If they want a cheaper phone in the X form factor, they'd get an X.…
Agree about anecdote, but you're off about the X. Apple discontinued the X, so if someone wants a cheaper phone in the X form factor, they're getting the XR. It's unusual for them to discontinue a model after just one year but the X was an anomaly in a lot of ways.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you want no Face ID or are you just happy to forgo it?
My problem with Face ID is how close I have to be to it to work — when sitting in its cradle on the dashboard, I can't face-unlock.
Try resetting it or add an alternate face while it's in the cradle. Mine unlocks from pretty far away.
Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR
#84Why is Apple diluting their brand? What happened to the simple product line? iPhone X this and iPhone X that is simply bad marketing. Are there product driven people in Apple anymore?
I wonder if the same thing is happening to Apple as happened to Disney - the visionary founder died, and the company slowly lost its way and became a vehicle for corporate profiteering while resting on the laurels of the visionary's pre-existing ideas.
Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Everyone I know In the grand scheme of things, and in the overall market, everyone you know still comes out to a rounding error. Don't get too caught up in anecdata. > I really feel like the XR is a repeat of the original iPhone 7 in that it's a phone with no target audience You're right, there. If people want a high-end iPhone, they'd get the XS. If they want a cheaper phone in the X form factor, they'd get an X.…
Agree about anecdote, but you're off about the X. Apple discontinued the X, so if someone wants a cheaper phone in the X form factor, they're getting the XR. It's unusual for them to discontinue a model after just one year but the X was an anomaly in a lot of ways.
Ah, I don’t buy devices directly from Apple and my telco still sold the X after the two new ones came out. My apologies.
Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR
#86Why is Apple diluting their brand? What happened to the simple product line? iPhone X this and iPhone X that is simply bad marketing. Are there product driven people in Apple anymore?
I wonder if the same thing is happening to Apple as happened to Disney - the visionary founder died, and the company slowly lost its way and became a vehicle for corporate profiteering while resting on the laurels of the visionary's pre-existing ideas.
Relevant video, why xerox failed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1rXqD6M614
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider the iPod: the differentiation was about things people would care about, like size, capacity, portability, style, etc. You weren't made to feel cheap just because you entered at the lower price points. You wanted an iPod Mini, and it made sense that it cost less than the Classic: you were still getting "the best" version of the thing you desired. Same story with the Mac: buying the iBook didn't make you feel…
Yeah, this is right. The interesting thing is that this problem doesn't seem to exist with the Macbook line, where there's clear differentiation: you can get the super blazingly fast monster, or you can get the really tiny one that actually needs to be less powerful in order to fit in the tiny case without having like 10 seconds of battery life. Though the Macbook/Macbook Air thing they just introduced muddies that a…
Agreed, AFAIK the only difference between the Macbook "escape" and the Macbook Air is that the MBA has TouchID and the classic shape.
Probably means they'll discontinue the non-touchbar MBP in the next round.
Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR
#88Maybe charging $1200 for a phone that barely has improvements over the 6s, yet contains several major regressions, was a bad strategy.
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#89Bought and returned iPhone XS...
- It lacks a home button
- It lacks Touch ID which unlocks your phone instantly before meeting your face (need this when sitting idle in traffic). Face ID takes longer.. that's bad UX and possibly dangerous UX which probably has caused some dummies (many out there) to have accidents.
- It's too big ... i can not text with one hand as Ive done with my 8 and all models before.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's still 2+ years longer than a non-iOS phone would stay current.
Only when you solely rely on the vendor for updates. While this is the only option on iOS devices this is not the case for Android where several third-party distributions can be used to keep older devices up to date. Some of these offer OTA updates which makes them usable for 'normal' users, i.e. those who want to use the device but are not that keen (or knowledgeable enough) to tinker with them.
That depends on whether the user had enough foresight to check on XDA whether the phone they're going to purchase is supported on XDA. Not all devices are, and most cheaper ones definitely aren't.