Malicious sites abuse 11-year-old Firefox bug that Mozilla failed to fix

Post by black_puppydog » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 7:22 AM UTC

oliwarner wrote: post #27

Uhrheber wrote: post #26

Why does nobody target the root cause? The possibility to show popups and popovers in browsers should be removed completely. There are little to no legit uses for them. Even reputable websites use them only to nag and annoy their users. And don't get me started about Javascript. This is a plague, that causes more problems than it solves.

This is an absurd overreaction. Popovers are CSS. Just a positioned element. And both up-and-overs are "legitimately" used as modals in apps.

And even in those cases 99% of the time they're a PITA. Modals are as bad in web UI as they are in desktop UI.

Post by oliwarner » Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 9:19 AM UTC

black_puppydog wrote: post #81

oliwarner wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an absurd overreaction. Popovers are CSS. Just a positioned element. And both up-and-overs are "legitimately" used as modals in apps.

And even in those cases 99% of the time they're a PITA. Modals are as bad in web UI as they are in desktop UI.

But this isn't a discussion about whether or not modals are good idea. The OP was arguing —without any idea what the mechanics are, I'm sure, because that's how we decide how technology works these days— that CSS should not be allowed to layer and position one thing over another.

Modals have a place, but like everything, they get abused by people with no idea about how things should work. But that isn't a good standalone argument for going back to pre-1997 CSS.

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