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Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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Mozilla shooting themselves in the foot again? Really, these people can't take a break. What's worse is that both Google and Mozilla are equally vile, so what browser am I supposed to use? In the end I guess I'll go with Brave.

You're kind overreacting here. Addons are reviewed by volunteers. Someone thought this violates the policies and acted. There are many ways to verify what is happening, including talking to the AMO team on IRC or other communication channel. It is not like you can't ask for clarification, it might all just be a honest mistake.

Addon security is vital to the security of the browser. The fact that addons are reviewed by volunteers, instead of employees, is even more ludicrous.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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I've recently been experimenting with creating an extension, and the automated signing was literally one of the first things I did when I followed the Hello World tutorial. It's very easy to obtain an .xpi that you can distribute to your users yourself.

How do you do this without leaking your code to mozilla?

I don't think you can have Mozilla sign it without letting them see the code.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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I believe this is the idea behind the Brave browser and their Basic Attention Token https://basicattentiontoken.org

What Brave is doing is highly unethical. If you don't want to see ads then fine it's your computer. But Brave is hijacking ads by force then strong-arming websites to sign up to their own shitty crypto currency if they want to be paid. It's basically an extortion scheme, or a mafia stye "protection scheme"

When a user views a website using an ad blocker, that website doesn't get paid.

When a user views a website using Brave, that website doesn't get paid.

There may be extra ethical concerns due to Brave's model, but there's no way you can claim that Brave is "strong-arming" websites.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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Mozilla shooting themselves in the foot again? Really, these people can't take a break. What's worse is that both Google and Mozilla are equally vile, so what browser am I supposed to use? In the end I guess I'll go with Brave.

The idea that Google and Mozilla are equally vile is so ludicrous that I wouldn't even know where to begin refuting it.

You are right, and I apologise. Firefox has had many more scandals than Chrome by far. Sending my private data to Cliqz, Mr. Robot addon being installed remotely, showing ads on the home page by default, preinstalling Pocket, etc.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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Flattr set out do that, many years ago. They still exist. Brave is trying to address that. There's patreon, and many others. Have you tried them ?

i dont agree with the tracking that goes along with all of them. i shouldnt be recording my action to a bunch of unrelated companies just so i can give a few cents to a website.

Brave records that data locally, none of it is actually sent to any servers. The only thing they know is an amount of money must go to the websites that your browser viewed. They don't record IP addresses or any personal data.

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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Here is what the creator actually said >One of the community reviewers removed it from the store claiming it violated the ToS, which is BS. The ToS never mentions the word paywall once. Please support me in appealing! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons#Getting_in_touch Which sounds more like a zealous community member than Mozilla taking a position.

yes!!! people don't realize that volunteers review the addons and that sometimes they make mistakes. They start acting as if Mozilla sent an internal memo to kill something when it is usually not the case.

> that volunteers review the addons

I don't think that makes it better. In fact, it's worse.

Why is Mozilla Corporation, a company with gross revenue of $562 million, delegating an important security role to unpaid and apparently unaccountable volunteers?

Re: Mozilla pulls Bypass Paywalls from Firefox add-ons store

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I've never understood how paywall bypass addons can be considered ethical. Even if you hate paywalls, it's the publisher's decision to use them. If I were to take a newspaper from a news stand without paying because there's an article I want to read but I don't want to pay, is that much different?

I'm honestly asking what the justification is for people who use these addons. Do you not consider it unethical or do you not care?

To clarify the tone of this post, I'm not trying to judge the value of someone's character based on if they bypass paywalls, I'm really just interested in other perspectives on this.

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