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Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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So wait, there are places where there are houses being given away (e.g. US, Japan and Italy as far as I know) and I'm a person that has the ability to work remotely. Am I missing something? Is this my ticket to cheap housing and a more stress free life? At what point am I going to be scammed and/or disappointed?

Where are houses being given away in Italy? I would love to know of the program.

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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So wait, there are places where there are houses being given away (e.g. US, Japan and Italy as far as I know) and I'm a person that has the ability to work remotely. Am I missing something? Is this my ticket to cheap housing and a more stress free life? At what point am I going to be scammed and/or disappointed?

Where are houses being given away in the US? I imagine that you need to be a Japanese citizen to get a free house.

I've seen multiple programs similar to the Detroit one, though you need to know where to look. Generally they follow the same idea as the above: You get a house for cheap, but it needs major repairs/renovations. Essentially you get a house for below market rate, but the city gets tax revenue and their dangerous buildings fixed.

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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The US saw similar efforts in Detroit and other Rust Belt cities. That mostly just resulted in asset flippers hoarding houses and letting them fall into further disrepair. I wonder what steps Japan is taking to mitigate that possibility.

Detroit: If you have a credit card and a want to own an apartment building, it is the place to be. Just needs some elbow grease. There MUST BE opportunity at $5 USD per square foot -- but it is hard to visualize. https://www.point2homes.com/US/Multi-Family-For-Sale/MI/Detr... [I think you can talk this guy down to $10k].

There's a Detroit entrepreneur who is trying to put together a pool of investors to rehab Detroit rental properties. He details every step he's taking on his blog which unfortunately is down right now.

Here's the under 2 minute where he shows off the 5 unit apartment building he bought on Craigslist for $13K and yes there are other opportunities out there just like that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bapcgs1v62Q&t=4s

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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Yes, you're missing that foreigners are not the target of these deals. Also it's not terribly complicated to get a visa to come here: you basically need at least a bachelor degree and to find a job. Given how the job market is starving for employees, it is not really hard. I know a half-dozen people of my country and my age that did it.

Aren't software engineers treated badly in Japan?

Oh the horror stories I have heard from Japanese colleagues when working alongside Japanese companies.

That being said it's not just software developers, it's practically everyone. Oh the horror stories I hear about my sisters-in-law.

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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Here are some below $10k https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Detroit-MI/17762_rid/0...

A lot of those ads seem to think that anyone would buy those homes to renovate them. Tearing them down seems to be the smart decision, if you could even consider buying abandoned Detroit homes smart. One of them has fire damage throughout the home, literally holes in the roof from the fire. Ad calls it a "handyman special". https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Detroit-MI/88117170_zp...

Realtors make "runs and drives, needs head gasket, $20 part, no time to fix" sound like something a pessimist would say.

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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The US saw similar efforts in Detroit and other Rust Belt cities. That mostly just resulted in asset flippers hoarding houses and letting them fall into further disrepair. I wonder what steps Japan is taking to mitigate that possibility.

I doubt that, I guess. I checked into the program in Detroit and you had to live in the property for a year. Now maybe people got around that somehow but that's not how the program was structured.

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Solution to SF homelessness problem.

Everyone thinks giving shitheads free houses is going to fix their problems. It isn't going to fix anything--those people are mostly useless as far as doing anything that is responsible. You could hand them all kinds of freebies and cash and in a few months they would be broke and homeless again because the free house will have burned down or they would break the toilet and then start shitting in each room until the whole house became uninhabitable, or they would lose it gambling, or...whatever. It is what it is with these assholes.

My wife works at a public library. They can't even get the vagrants to act decent while out in public--always pissing in the meeting rooms or masturbating or whatever. It's disgusting.

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Japan doesn't renovate. It's probably the only country in the world where "used homes" are considered something to be ashamed of. I had heard that older Japanese were very 'allergic' to anything used or old, as it reminded them of the time during the war and post-war when everyone had to scrounge for everything. There was this thing in the 90's called '{some derogatory term}-shopping' where you'd dumpster dive in wel…

> I had heard that older Japanese were very 'allergic' to anything used or old That seems to be an exception pertaining to houses and especially single-family units. Objects/items seem to be restored as much as elsewhere if not more (see e.g. kintsugi ). Although transience/impermanence is also part of japanese tradition / aesthetics.

That seems to be an exception pertaining to houses and especially single-family units.

My mother is Korean, but FWIW she seems to have a similar stigma around 2nd hand clothing. With regards to dumpster diving for consumer electronics, I had only heard that theory 2nd hand, and I guess that especially applied to consumer electronics.

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I always felt like The Walking Dead was missing an opportunity to do some good. Years ago I read about a movie production crew that got permission to demolish a rundown public building as part of filming in exchange for rebuilding it afterward. For TWD you could use several of those abandoned Detroit neighborhoods for a sequence and then bulldoze the neighborhood to the foundations afterward, reducing the health and…

Ha. The idea of using Detroit for TWD, or even perhaps it's own spinoff series, is pretty gold, tbh.

It's not about the location, but about the tax credits...

Re: Japan Is Giving Away 8M Abandoned Houses

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If they’d throw in a working visa I’d be intrigued

If you could pull that off, sounds like an incredible program to me. I don't think anything could revitalize Detroit like large amounts of immigrants would.

And Detroit already has a large immigrant population, so it's not that much of a culture shock.
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