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Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by dep_b »

ghotli wrote: post #3

For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along these lines I never found the track in this article. It's really good and it reminds me of E2-E4 [1] [2] by Manuel Göttsching. Which I found because the guy from LCD Soundsystem is quoted in the wikipedia article that when he did 45:33 that he wanted to make somet…

The E2-E4 track was sampled in "Sueño Latino" which was an early Balearic House hit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhqDeTSEl4

It was remixed by Derrick May into a masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBP6U77KnCE

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by paganel »

emptyfile wrote: post #35
zamalek wrote: post #11

It's amazing that the iconic dance/trance clap (the clap after 1:15 in Acid Tracks) was forged alongside the 303. This exact sample (or an unbelievably similar one) could be heard throughout the late 90's and still features in many tracks today. It's the Wilhelm Scream of EDM. Acid eventually resulted in liquid trance, which eventually became psytrance. Liquid was a fantastic exploration of the nature of sound, with…

>Acid eventually resulted in liquid trance, which eventually became psytrance. No it didn't, psytrance came from goa trance for which the foundations were laid in the 80's before trance popper was a thing. And what is liquid trance? Never heard of it. But not to make this post just about whining, here's possibly the first trance track ever made, since we're talking about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9pH9C7Oe…

> I'm not from the 90's so I can only imagine how shocking this music must have been 23 years ago.

I'm a kid of the late '80s and '90s and that wouldn't have been shocking for mainstream listeners back then. I'm especially thinking of Eurodance music which was pretty massive and popular in the early part of the '90s and which sounds very similar in some respects to the music in your YT link.

It's also true that times were different back then, and for the better, just look at the MTV Top 10 of 1994 [1] and you can see bands like GreenDay, Sound Garden, Nirvana or Smashing Pumpkins. These type of bands wouldn't make the top 10 of popularity charts in this day and age (with the exception of GreenDay, probably). I mean, just look at this "Black Hole Sun" video [2] from Sound Garden which 13-year old me was watching during prime-time on MTV while doing my homework, this was seen as totally normal back then. Nowadays I'm afraid these type of music-videos and art-creation in general are out of prime-time media. The '90s were a lot more daring than today.

[1] http://www.jjheath.com/MTV1994.html

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by rorykoehler »

pgreenwood wrote: post #6

The acid sound is still immensely popular amongst my cohort even after 30 years. And still some great stuff being produced (relatively) recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHIEqdOic9w

True. I recently stumbled across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkwbCeVT5bA

ConSequence Vs The Auditor - South London Analogue Movement (Original Mix. )Released this year and very much acid.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by sireat »

praptak wrote: post #22

If you are interested in this, Synthmania YouTube channel has pretty detailed reconstruction/deconstruction of beats from those times, mostly using the original gear.

Synthmania is a treasure!

He has an amazing collection of synths/drum machines/other audio gear PLUS he can showcase them in styles from 70s funk, to 90s techno and everything in between(italo, house etc etc)..

Some house related videos of his:

TB-303: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ZUIkaQ7Kw

House and Techno Patterns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3Y0oVaXX4

The new Roland digital machines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ag_yvj9cw

Finally the infamous "I don't have an Aira" video which was meant in jest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FirM3sy5YvY

My personal favorite of his is House done by multilayering a single Microbrute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlmI-gvdZ6o

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by guggle »

SonicSoul wrote: post #62

I still have my future retro 777 I acquired during college years. I expected to keep it as collector item but considering parting with it for the right person that would put it to good use in NYC! Hit me up if you’ve been looking for it.

That's one dope box. Goes way beyond what a 303 does. FM is crazy.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by ghotli »

neom wrote: post #4
ghotli wrote: post #3

For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along these lines I never found the track in this article. It's really good and it reminds me of E2-E4 [1] [2] by Manuel Göttsching. Which I found because the guy from LCD Soundsystem is quoted in the wikipedia article that when he did 45:33 that he wanted to make somet…

Seems like you really know your house. Not sure if you're musically inclined but if so the OP-1 is a great tool[1][2]. If you ever make it to nyc hit me up, I know James well and I'm sure he'd enjoy your thoughts around E2-E4. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE

Heh looks like this thread blew up. Really feels like community to just post a couple of my favorite tracks before bed and come back to all of this. Both the OP-1 links and the nyc offer are really great, thanks. Looks like a lot of fun.

Two of my other favs in this constellation of things are Walking on Thin Ice [1] [2] [3] by Yoko Ono which includes guitar and keyboard from John Lennon recorded as his last recorded creative act right before he was shot. Lots of people don't like Yoko but I don't care, this song is a great dancehall hit and that Lennon guitar solo at the end really gets me.

The other is Where You Go I Go Too [4] [5] by Lindstrøm which is more modern but unfolds as a singular kind of piece that was apparently toiling to make, listening to all thirty minutes each time he made a change. It's my favorite of his and has it's own unique sound but he's since said because it was such a grueling process that he won't make another like it.

I'm done and this can fade away. Glad y'all enjoyed these. Thanks for the notes to those who reached out to me.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzV7FiuDYKo

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_on_Thin_Ice

[3] https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/john-lennon-th...

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I4rQRJI4l4

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_You_Go_I_Go_Too

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by spunker540 »

coldtea wrote: post #53
n4r9 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you call that house where you're from? I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno, and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. House tends to be lighter, slightly slower and more euphoric, e.g. this I would call acid house: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhxpMnfHB0 I'm intrigued because I knew an American at uni who insisted…

> I think most people in the UK would pretty quickly say the Göttsching and LCD Soundsystem tracks are techno Göttsching is indeed techno. > and the Phuture track in the article is straight up acid techno. In those days the term used for that style was "acid house". It then turned into various sub-genres (rave, trance, etc). Acid techno is a later name for later genre.

Does anyone else find the amount of sub-genres in electronic music excessive?

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by voltagex_ »

pugworthy wrote: post #5
ghotli wrote: post #3

For awhile when I was younger I played the game of listen to an album then look up who influenced it, rinse and repeat. Found real gems this way, but along these lines I never found the track in this article. It's really good and it reminds me of E2-E4 [1] [2] by Manuel Göttsching. Which I found because the guy from LCD Soundsystem is quoted in the wikipedia article that when he did 45:33 that he wanted to make somet…

Is this representative of what's on that play list? I really don't want to sign up for "yet another thing" to hear the original link.

DRM free - https://traxrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lidell-townsell

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by neom »

davedx wrote: post #71
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Göttsching is krautrock - a terrible but accepted name for the pre-techno synthesizer scene that formed in Berlin in the late 60s and became popular in most of Europe (not so much Germany) in the 70s. The biggest names on the scene were Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, Göttsching was in a peripheral band called Ashra Tempel but also played drums for Schulze. The less famous names on the scene - Roedelius, Cluster,…

> the big difference is the rhythm pattern. Techno is square and on the grid, house feels like it has some swing and the beat is "skippier" with offbeats, anticipations, and sometimes triplets. I think I could easily find a dozen examples from both genres that don't match your description... :) BPM is the best indicator. Most house is slower, most techno is faster.

With tropical house being on the rise, I find it really blurry if it's techno or house with the more pop-y stuff these days, especially the funky/disco vibes coming out of the Paris scene right now.

Re: Dropping Acid

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Post by neom »

rtisdale wrote: post #31
neom wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like you really know your house. Not sure if you're musically inclined but if so the OP-1 is a great tool[1][2]. If you ever make it to nyc hit me up, I know James well and I'm sure he'd enjoy your thoughts around E2-E4. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqThYqldBI [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umatbZ0n4mE

After wanting an OP-1 for years I finally got ahold of an OP-1 used for a decent price. It’s an absolutely amazing device but I probably wouldn’t suggest it so someone as a first synth purchase. Prior to buying it I got a Novation Circuit and then a Digitakt. The Circuit is a far less expensive device (can be had for 200-300) and is very flexible. It fits into a similar realm as an OP-1 (jambox)

Only reason I suggested OP-1 was I googled and saw he studies physics at Princeton, for some reason I figured he'd be a good candidate for an OP, hehe. :D
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