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Re: Whether to Use Anki or SuperMemo

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hnous927 wrote: post #73
bayesian_horse wrote: post #35

Spaced repetition is misunderstood. The original idea was to decrease the amount of time needed for long term memorization, over a different approach, like sequential or purely random repetition. However, many people now compare SRS over no repetition at all. One big problem of SRS is that it gets unwieldy with larger chunks of information. SRS is good for vocabulary, bad for medical texts. The much bigger problem is…

I’m OP. Thank you for the feedback! I don't see why not comparing "SRS over no repetition at all". To me, SRS or no SRS, they are all learning/studying methods. All SRS algorithm is expanding, i.e. increasing intervals. So maybe with continue success, it'll be: 1 day, 2, 4, 16, 40, 300 (arbitrary numbers). How do you propose to lean medical texts, if without SRS? Mnemonic techniques only work with rote recall, wherea…

The idea with SRS is that the exponential scheduling is supposed to be more efficient than random or sequential scheduling.

I did study for medical exams with mnemonic techniques. Studies have shown that they do not inhibit understanding at all. In my experience they even help understanding. They totally dominate SRS on anything looking like a table or list. With text it's not as pronounced, but still you can memorize the key words, as few as possible, as many as necessary.

Flashcards are first of all a rewrite of the original material. If that is really necessary, the original material sucks, at least for the purposes of the exam. The physical cards are marginally easier to use than a textbook, but then again, writing them takes a lot of time and effort.

Re: Whether to Use Anki or SuperMemo

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Post by hnous927 »

bayesian_horse wrote: post #81
hnous927 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m OP. Thank you for the feedback! I don't see why not comparing "SRS over no repetition at all". To me, SRS or no SRS, they are all learning/studying methods. All SRS algorithm is expanding, i.e. increasing intervals. So maybe with continue success, it'll be: 1 day, 2, 4, 16, 40, 300 (arbitrary numbers). How do you propose to lean medical texts, if without SRS? Mnemonic techniques only work with rote recall, wherea…

The idea with SRS is that the exponential scheduling is supposed to be more efficient than random or sequential scheduling. I did study for medical exams with mnemonic techniques. Studies have shown that they do not inhibit understanding at all. In my experience they even help understanding. They totally dominate SRS on anything looking like a table or list. With text it's not as pronounced, but still you can memoriz…

SRS is mostly about the learning schedule, i.e. equal intervals and increasing intervals.

How you execute, whether with mnemonics or flashcards, is different.

With the umbrella term of "study or learning techniques", the learning schedule and execution are both included.

Re: Whether to Use Anki or SuperMemo

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Post by hnous927 »

keiferski wrote: post #77
hnous927 wrote: post #70

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I’m OP. Thank you for the feedback! Yes, I think decks have to be personalized. But I don't agree the argument that "writing out in pencil then transferring back to a Spaced Repetition Software" is better than "pre-made selections of reading material". For Incremental Reading, you have to select the important parts; there's no pre-made selection. It's just like highlighting; the material isn't pre-highlighted. I thin…

The Medium, whether you are doing it in paper and pencil is no difference than doing it digitally. Science says otherwise: https://www.fastcompany.com/40476984/this-is-how-the-way-you...

>"Studies have shown that taking notes by longhand will help you remember important meeting points better than tapping notes out on your laptop or smartphone."

By "doing it" I meant the thought process, the selecting process of what's important, not the medium in which you do your "whole studying".

Also that study means that taking notes by hands is better than with a computer. It doesn't mean learning with paper and pencil is better than with a computer, especially when we involve other things like a spaced repetition software.

Re: Whether to Use Anki or SuperMemo

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Post by jammygit »

edwardhusarcik wrote: post #65
jammygit wrote: post #64

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How long does it take you to do those 300-1000 cards per day? I'm finding I'm reviewing at about 9s/card lately

I'm slower than that. It takes up a good portion of my day everyday unfortunately.

good for you for keeping up with it then

Re: Whether to Use Anki or SuperMemo

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Post by bayesian_horse »

hnous927 wrote: post #82
bayesian_horse wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea with SRS is that the exponential scheduling is supposed to be more efficient than random or sequential scheduling. I did study for medical exams with mnemonic techniques. Studies have shown that they do not inhibit understanding at all. In my experience they even help understanding. They totally dominate SRS on anything looking like a table or list. With text it's not as pronounced, but still you can memoriz…

SRS is mostly about the learning schedule, i.e. equal intervals and increasing intervals. How you execute, whether with mnemonics or flashcards, is different. With the umbrella term of "study or learning techniques", the learning schedule and execution are both included.

Usually when people talk about SRS, they mean flashcards or Software. At the very least you would need to keep track of the learning schedule and what you forget. Which I found impractical for learning large amounts of stuff.
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