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If I was a farm worker I wouldn't be too upset about not having to go perhaps a long ways to use a restroom and be able to clean my hands afterwards.
If you were a farm worker who was paid piece rates rather than hourly, you might be less happy about that
Tens of millions of people shouldn't eat Romaine lettuce because 30 people got sick in October?
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Many restaurants in China serve cooked lettuce as a side, I found it quite odd at first but it's really tasty and with some soy sauce easy to eat by itself. Cooking lettuce in the western world will probably raise a few eyebrows.
I’ve gone to a few restaurants in the US that do a cooked version of a caesar salad that’s quite good. I’ve made it myself, too. Grill whole heads of romaine until they’re blackened and wilting, then dress and shave parmesean on them. Well ... don’t do that now, I guess. But once the red alert is over, it’s pretty tasty.
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Consumer Reports had a more thorough article than the short write up by the CDC. I find it frustrating the CDC blanket points the fjnger at lettuce without disclosing root cause. People confuse the fact that plants are not the source, animal feces is (most likely in this case). Just as s it was last time... https://www.consumerreports.org/food-safety/what-growers-are...
But it's still correct to be wary of plants, the fact that you typically eat them raw makes them the most common source of infection.
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This action brings the food up to a temperature where it tends to kill/denature a lot of the bad bugs in the food. Unfortunately that's not enough, because cooking temperatures don't always denature the toxins that the bugs produce, which is what the real problems come from.
> Unfortunately that's not enough, because cooking temperatures don't always denature the toxins that the bugs produce, which is what the real problems come from. Isn't the problem that the "bugs" produce the toxins while thriving inside your body? If you kill them through cooking, they won't be producing anything while inside you when dead.
Cooking the rice doesn't kiil the bugs. Not chilling the rice quickly enough allows the bugs to produce toxins. Reheating the rice doesn't destroy the toxin.
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/food-and-diet/can...
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I always cut and rinse lettuce, is that uncommon? Sounds interesting. I need to try stir frying romaine.
You can't rinse off what's physically inside the plant. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5404196/
The other day, my wife introduced me to yet another difference between Chinese cuisine and US cuisine: She cooked the Romaine lettuce she got from her coworker. She just cooked it like you'd cook Bok Choy. It was quite good! My wife also rinses everything we get from the store. No one is to be trusted with your family's food. Absolutely everything is rinsed, including things most Americans would really rather not. On…
Many restaurants in China serve cooked lettuce as a side, I found it quite odd at first but it's really tasty and with some soy sauce easy to eat by itself. Cooking lettuce in the western world will probably raise a few eyebrows.
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Consumer Reports had a more thorough article than the short write up by the CDC. I find it frustrating the CDC blanket points the fjnger at lettuce without disclosing root cause. People confuse the fact that plants are not the source, animal feces is (most likely in this case). Just as s it was last time... https://www.consumerreports.org/food-safety/what-growers-are...
> I find it frustrating the CDC blanket points the fjnger at lettuce without disclosing root cause. Uh, they disclose the root cause, the specific strain of STEC. You are upset they aren't highlighting an intermediate level between the root cause and the actual actionable consumer information.
No need to speculate if we've not nailed which source, but we can _highlight_ the current lack of actionable info rather than let people assume one.
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> I find it frustrating the CDC blanket points the fjnger at lettuce without disclosing root cause. Uh, they disclose the root cause, the specific strain of STEC. You are upset they aren't highlighting an intermediate level between the root cause and the actual actionable consumer information.
More that people will form the wrong conclusion - vegetables are naturally prone to e. coli - because they didn't point out that thus had to come from an outside source. No need to speculate if we've not nailed which source, but we can _highlight_ the current lack of actionable info rather than let people assume one.
Complaining that they aren't adding information that—true as it is—is irrelevant to the task at hand to the alert is, quite literally, asking to make the immediate public health issue worse, and for more people to die.
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>Absolutely everything is rinsed Don't rinse raw meat. It makes things worse! https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety...
Spoilers: Its not making things worse. It just provides an avenue for cross contamination, which you should be accounting for when preparing meat anyways.