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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by senoroink »

joshuamorton wrote: post #75
jcousins wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.

I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

> The done button is the archive button

True, but the point of Inbox was to treat your email like a todo list. By definition, it is the same, but training millions of Inbox users that this is new behavior makes it hard to grok.

> If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

Every Inbox is probably using bundles whether they remember or not. It becomes incredibly powerful when you have a trip coming up and your flight, hotel, rental car, etc. is all bundled up together.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

pixelrevision wrote: post #46
GhostVII wrote: post #16

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

josteink wrote: post #71
misterman0 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the first time in many years I've stumbled upon a word I have never ever heard before, not in a movie, not in any literature, nowhere. Thank you. It seems HN has utility after all.

> not in any literature It would seem you are way over due as far as reading Frank Herbert’s Dune-series goes.

A bit off-topic, but Dune also gave us this magnificent quote:

> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

- Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by curiousgal »

GhostVII wrote: post #16

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

Seeing how slow the Standard view is, I'd pay good money for such a CSS theme.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Vinnl »

joshuamorton wrote: post #75
jcousins wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.

I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

The other feature I'm going to miss is reminders. Now I'll have to start emailing stuff to myself again, which is quite a few more steps.

(Unless of course I'm missing something, in which case I hope someone here corrects me.)

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

mattnewton wrote: post #20
vbezhenar wrote: post #17

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3 seconds to load interface, almost instant transitions to mail and reply. Windows, Google Chrome.

I suspect this has more to do with network speed than platform or browser time spent parsing / executing js.

GMail is incredibly slow on every browser that isn't Chrome.

I have gigabit internet and I can assure you it's not a bandwidth problem.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by Narishma »

misterman0 wrote: post #55
sova wrote: post #50

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Happy to share and partake in the natural refulgence of the variegated English language with you.

I like you're speak. But what does it mean, to shudder?

Here it is used in a somewhat popular song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oQ8sNSYXmQ

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by babuskov »

olig15 wrote: post #25
sehugg wrote: post #13

I can handle the new design, but on my (albeit underpowered) Chromebook, new Gmail takes ~30 seconds from initial page load to starting a reply to a thread. This is not progress.

I don’t use emails much on my MBP (2016), but I had to send one today. I loaded up gmail, waited a bit for it to load, then clicked ‘compose’ only for the interface to show ‘something is wrong’ in various places. In the end I just setup email in the Mac email client. This was in the latest Firefox, and I know chrome is supposed to perform better for gmail, but writing an email on a 3 year old laptop shouldn’t be a bi…

It messes up the browser cache somehow. It's happening 4-5 times per day for me if I check the e-mail often.

You can press Command+Shift+R to force reload and it works fine afterwards.

Also, running GMail in Firefox (on MBP) makes Firefox consume 100% of a single CPU core very often. But if I open developer tools to track down the source of the problem, it stops consuming 100%.

Well, at least they stop me from checking e-mail too often. I used to check e-mail like 5-6 times per hour before. Now I do it 2-3 times per day and I feel like it increased my productivity on stuff that actually matters. So, it isn't all that bad ;)

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by cauthon »

joshuamorton wrote: post #75
jcousins wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.

I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.

Bundles for me. I get so much mailing list and advertising spam that my personal Gmail is almost unusable without bundles

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by mcv »

lucideer wrote: post #36
Arnt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What precisely is shitty and broken about gmail's IMAP implementation? Gmail's IMAP implementation implements three RFCs I wrote; I haven't noticed anything wrong in those areas. Are my RFCs unusual or am I overlooking something?

I'm curious if you've actually used an IMAP client witha Gmail account; if so, which one(s). A sibling comment has already mentioned the folder/flags mixup issue, but while it sounds like one small feature, that one thing is so fundamentally broken that I really can't see how any user of Gmail IMAP would overlook it. I get duplicate notifications for the same mail in INBOX and [Gmail]/All Mail and actions on one copy…

I use Mail on OS X. I've never had any problems with Gmail. Folders work fine. I never use flags. Notifications work fine. When I delete a message, it's gone. Sometimes it takes a while for the deletion to propagate from one device to another, but I've never had a message survive deletion long term.
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