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Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud

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Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud

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Post by buxtehude »

throwaway405 wrote: post #62
partiallypro wrote: post #6

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Explain, how it is horrible from a tech perspective? (hint: it's not) Edit: I'm getting downvoted, but no one as of yet has shown how Azure is built on horrible tech compared to its peers. It's just a flat lie, none of the big 3 are built on horrible tech. It's just being dishonest and is basically fanboyism/hatred of one party. You can argue about UI you like or don't (I prefer Azure) you can argue about APIs, their…

While Microsoft has undoubtedly been catching up, and there are always some specific products where one vendor has a leg up, there is no doubt the Azure cloud has been technologically far behind AWS and significantly behind Google. First of all, I'd want to acknowledge that Google is behind AWS as well. One big technical reason is IAM. Few realize just how important AWS IAM is as a service federation infrastructure.…

You're really trying to make your point here with examples from 3 years ago?

Things change fast in these cloud services - so would be good to know specifically which parts of GCP IAM are missing.

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Post by notyourwork »

scarface74 wrote: post #47
matchagaucho wrote: post #38

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The inability to connect with a real human when escalating Google Cloud issues seems to be recurring theme on HN.

I can’t speak to Azure, but with a business support plan, it’s really easy to connect with a human on AWS. My experience is that they won’t give up until they resolve your issue. They’ve even gone as far as creating a simplified CloudFormation stack to duplicate the issue and then talk to their developers and get back to you.

Customer obsession is one of Amazon's primary focus. This isn't just for selling merchandise on retail.

Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud

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Post by PetahNZ »

ewhauser421 wrote: post #69

I see a lot of Google Cloud bashing on this thread, so thought I'd share my viewpoint as a customer. We've been a Google Cloud customer for close to a year now and just recently signed a deal to move all of our infrastructure over to them from AWS. I've previously managed infrastructure spends of $>10M a year on AWS before, so have a decent amount of experience with them. I've never used Azure. We had been running ou…

$10M spend, doesn't investigate more than 2 options. Nice.

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Post by shittyadmin »

VikingCoder wrote: post #73
lalos wrote: post #8

Microsoft will reap the rewards of supporting XP and Office for decades, that wins enterprise trust & goodwill, and clients will expect that from Azure. On the other hand, every month we have a new product/service of Google being deprecated (officially or by raising prices). Even if it's technically better, the most sane business decision from enterprise would be to bet on Microsoft for support reasons. Microsoft tal…

I can't even tell you how many connectivity and graphics technologies MS launched, I developed on, and then they abandoned. I struggle to understand why people think MS deserves enterprise trust & goodwill.

> I can't even tell you how many connectivity and graphics technologies MS launched, I developed on, and then they abandoned.

How many of these technologies still function on Windows 10? As far as I know many of their abandoned platforms are still fully functional. Even in Windows 10 you can still install 16-bit apps. They've always been dedicated to compatibility... try running a few year old app on a modern smartphone and you'll see the difference.

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Post by VikingCoder »

AlexeyBrin wrote: post #78
paulryanrogers wrote: post #76

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Like GDI? (Honest question, not much of a graphics coder myself)

You can use GDI and GDI+ on Windows 10 from VS 2017 without a problem.

This is like patents expiring. By the time the patent expires, it's not valuable any more, because the new stuff is superior.

In the MS land, I get to completely rewrite my app, because I need the new hotness, which doesn't work with the old API.

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Post by benburleson »

awad wrote: post #67
metildaa wrote: post #14

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What does Amazon offer for a cloud office suite though? I have never heard of one despite living in Seattle, where we see all kinds of failed Amazon expansions.

Here you go, all offered under the 'Business Productivity' umbrella of AWS: Amazon WorkDocs https://aws.amazon.com/workdocs/ Amazon WorkMail https://aws.amazon.com/workmail/ Amazon Chime https://aws.amazon.com/chime/ Amazon Alexa for Business https://aws.amazon.com/alexaforbusiness/

I'd love to see the contribution these services make to AWS revenue.

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Post by komali2 »

skj wrote: post #49
arctux wrote: post #41

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You seem to be correct. > Google Maps Platform is a part of Google Cloud, but not a part of Google Cloud Platform I have never felt that I have been confused by something so justifiably.

(googler working in gcp here) The basic way to tell if something is part of GCP or another Google product that some marketing whiz managed to have "cloud" tacked onto the name is whether or not you need a GCP project to work with it.

Do you not for Maps? All my API keys are lumped under "test_prjoect_1" for me, which I don't even remember creating.
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