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Vide Judge Kavanaugh.
Some of the later accusations could have been targeted smears, or they could have been true. But if Dr. Ford was intentionally lying in an attempt to smear Kavanaugh, she was laying the groundwork for her accusation all the way back in 2012. That's a pretty far reaching conspiracy.
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http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977814,...
Based on what the experts they hired told them this is example of "Telling only part of the story, showing bias, spinning things". The experts NBC hired to conduct the demonstration insisted that the rockets wouldn't matter unless fuel spilled. They also told them that the explosion was sparked by a broken headlamp, not the rockets they added as part of the demonstration. Additionally, the demonstration was designed…
A: In principle yes, but: it wasn't Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov but Aleksander Aleksandrovich Aleksandrov; he is not from Moscow but from Odessa; it was not a car but a bicycle; he didn't win it, but it was stolen from him.
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#83The fake news phenomenon is something that worries me at a local level: friends and family. I'm constantly bombarded by forwarded messages from them that don't pass a simple cursory review and are 99% fake if you dig further. I've tried to combat this by researching what's forwarded to me and pointing that out (including how I discovered it was false) but people either don't reply back or get hostile, assuming I'm on…
I feel most people who trust social media for news are super-late Internet adopters who don't quite understand how any of this stuff works. I know some older (but not old, really) people who use Facebook without understanding the boundary between Facebook and the rest of the web. They just see text on the screen and make arbitrary assumptions on where it's coming from. This is the price society is paying for making s…
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#84The concept of "fake" news is a slippery slope. Anyone that's in the business of gathering and presenting news has a number of vested interests. Sensationalism. Fabrication. Fear mongering. Persuasion. Ingratiation. Language itself is mostly a tool for some shade of lying and/or intimidation, with the occasional fringe use of conveying factual information or for enabling cooperation between peers.
We are not talking about exaggeration, we are talking about people who make actual fake news. Fake and as in completely artificial, no basis in reality, and imaginary. Its creating news that doesn't exist. > Sun Won't Rise Tomorrow, Click Now To Find Out Who's At Fault ^ This is what is effectively going on. Its objectively false and fake news. But the problem is that people are believing this shit.
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#85The fake news phenomenon is something that worries me at a local level: friends and family. I'm constantly bombarded by forwarded messages from them that don't pass a simple cursory review and are 99% fake if you dig further. I've tried to combat this by researching what's forwarded to me and pointing that out (including how I discovered it was false) but people either don't reply back or get hostile, assuming I'm on…
Belonging: people are really desperate for things to participate in and cheerlead. It doesn't matter if it's true, and (rather like the famous paper on criminal signalling) it's better if it's not. Because that demonstrates that the people who listen to what you say believe in you. Conversely, by contradicting people you're showing them that you don't belong together.
Gnosticism: salvation through secret knowledge. The public sphere is compromised, so the best kind of knowledge is forbidden and non-mainstream. "Doctors don't want you to know this".
In a way, every false chain letter is a tiny cult.
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#86If you haven't seen Century of the Self[1] I recommend it. It is a documentary about the history, and rise of PR. We are now, perhaps, at the end of the century of the self - as the trustworthiness (and hence value) of broadcast information drops to zero (not that it has yet, but it will). How our current news/media copes, and what replaces it are still unknown. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04
> How our current news/media copes, and what replaces it are still unknown... You should be more worried about how the current government copes with it. I think fake news might have helped Trump gain power in part, but it's DEFINITELY contributing to Trump losing power. Which illustrates that it's much easier to tear down with fake news than it is to build up. That doesn't bode at all well for anyone who wants to be…
I thought that was the gradual exposure and prosecution of his money-laundering accomplices, along with the conspicuous nastiness of his few policies, and the huge amount of time spent golfing or tweeting?
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You're being downvoted for some reason, but the point on morality and capitalism is sound. For examples you might have been better choosing cases where the production rather than use by customers is problematic. Radium paint and dials, asbestos, prior to 20th century regulations food and medicine fraud and adulteration so endemic that finding just the correct product was almost impossible. Which is what led those reg…
Allowing businesses to divorce themselves from responsibility for the effects of what they produce, regardless of consumer choice, is too easy. I have no idea what the equivalent of "Saturday morning cartoons" is today, but 20 years ago, that slot was filled with commercials for sugary foods, targeted at children. Now we have payday loans, "buy here pay here" and a host of other services that capitalize on unsophisti…
Many in the South abhorred slavery and segregation, but had no choice but to follow the law.
Killing and maiming people has been a State activity since they've existed. It's one of the things they're very efficient at.
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#88Define your hygienic sources of news and stick to them, accept that you may need to pay for quality. Enforcing this is a personal responsibility.
Oh... and teach the children personal news hygiene.
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Allowing businesses to divorce themselves from responsibility for the effects of what they produce, regardless of consumer choice, is too easy. I have no idea what the equivalent of "Saturday morning cartoons" is today, but 20 years ago, that slot was filled with commercials for sugary foods, targeted at children. Now we have payday loans, "buy here pay here" and a host of other services that capitalize on unsophisti…
Free Markets aren't amoral at all, if I produce something of value and we swap value, I fail to see how that is amoral. In fact, preventing that transaction is amoral. Slavery itself was amoral, and codified and enforced by the state. Many in the South abhorred slavery and segregation, but had no choice but to follow the law. Killing and maiming people has been a State activity since they've existed. It's one of the…
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Allowing businesses to divorce themselves from responsibility for the effects of what they produce, regardless of consumer choice, is too easy. I have no idea what the equivalent of "Saturday morning cartoons" is today, but 20 years ago, that slot was filled with commercials for sugary foods, targeted at children. Now we have payday loans, "buy here pay here" and a host of other services that capitalize on unsophisti…
Free Markets aren't amoral at all, if I produce something of value and we swap value, I fail to see how that is amoral. In fact, preventing that transaction is amoral. Slavery itself was amoral, and codified and enforced by the state. Many in the South abhorred slavery and segregation, but had no choice but to follow the law. Killing and maiming people has been a State activity since they've existed. It's one of the…
Slavery was only ended at the insistence of laws put in place by the state.