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Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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Once I started using Firefox Focus, I was surprised at how rarely I actually needed to browse the web un-anonymously. I don't need to be logged in to search, use Wikipedia, or read news online. Focus is perfect for bite-sized browsing. Read and then throw the session away.

Requires iOS 11. I don't want to update my iPhone SE -- it's fine as it is and I don't need it slower; I made that mistake with a previous iPhone.

It’s a bad thing that Apple doesn’t allow older versions to be downloaded. Firefox Focus was there before iOS 11 too, though it’s not as feature rich as the latest one. If you had downloaded it on iOS 10, you could still continue to use it or redownload that version.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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I feel it's safer these days to assume any digital product that's owned by a Chinese parent company is compromised, than assuming it isn't.

Given the browser is produced by Opera Software AS, all data should be held under Norwegian law (which will in the near future include the GDPR), and your recourses are through the Norwegian courts, which makes it a very different situation to something developed directly in China.

I remember reading a comment from a dev working for a mobile app shop which had been bought by a Chinese company: they got instructions to add an analytics binary blob to their app and did it.

That's an anecdote, but the point is that one can't rely on Norwegian courts for enforcing privacy.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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Given the browser is produced by Opera Software AS, all data should be held under Norwegian law (which will in the near future include the GDPR), and your recourses are through the Norwegian courts, which makes it a very different situation to something developed directly in China.

I remember reading a comment from a dev working for a mobile app shop which had been bought by a Chinese company: they got instructions to add an analytics binary blob to their app and did it. That's an anecdote, but the point is that one can't rely on Norwegian courts for enforcing privacy.

Right, you can't stop them from pulling something like that, but you do have recourse through the Norwegian courts (whom are likely to look down on that much more so than any Chinese court!), and when Opera Limited's revenue is predominantly through it's Opera Software AS subsidiary, a large GDPR fine in Norway would be a big deal to the company.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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After the recent Chrome debacles, I removed it from my systems (not that I was using it much before). On iOS, my go to browser is Firefox Focus, a single tab browser that you treat as a private tab and erase quickly when you're done. It comes with a built in ad blocker too. Next in line for my use are Brave and Firefox. They're different, have good interfaces, and support multiple tabs. Last on my list is Safari. The…

iOS12 Shortcuts are a limited form of extension, they can parse JS from a web page and cause side effects. E.g. - extract URL and download youtube video to camera roll - move a running video out of browser into picture-in-picture mode for multitasking Content (ad) blocking extensions are supported in Safari.

Shortcuts can "parse JS from a web page"? Can you explain how that's possible? None of the examples you listed seem to involve direct access to page content.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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iOS12 Shortcuts are a limited form of extension, they can parse JS from a web page and cause side effects. E.g. - extract URL and download youtube video to camera roll - move a running video out of browser into picture-in-picture mode for multitasking Content (ad) blocking extensions are supported in Safari.

Shortcuts can "parse JS from a web page"? Can you explain how that's possible? None of the examples you listed seem to involve direct access to page content.

Here's the JS for PiP video, the shortcut command is "Run JS in web page":

  var videos = document.getElementsByTagName("video");
  if (videos) {
    var video = videos[0];
        video.webkitSetPresentationMode(video.webkitPresentationMode === "picture-in-picture" ? "inline" : "picture-in-picture");
  }

  completion({"success": true});

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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Once I started using Firefox Focus, I was surprised at how rarely I actually needed to browse the web un-anonymously. I don't need to be logged in to search, use Wikipedia, or read news online. Focus is perfect for bite-sized browsing. Read and then throw the session away.

Requires iOS 11. I don't want to update my iPhone SE -- it's fine as it is and I don't need it slower; I made that mistake with a previous iPhone.

I had an SE, 11 didn't slow it down. 12 was made to be faster than 11 even on the oldest supported devices. The SE has the internals of the 6S, only a couple generations behind, so it'll be fine.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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But for many of us, the aspect of having a NSA backdoored US product is probably more scary.

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