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Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

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Post by MBCook »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #79
anonymousab wrote: post #74

I've found it amusing that a few news sites disable their atrocious autoplaying videos (and often, the preview window that follows you when you scroll an article) when they detect ad blocking or tracking protection. They're purposely giving me a better experience for blocking, rather than an inferior one. But I guess the metrics must show or are being interpreted to show that most users prefer the obnoxiousness.

> most users prefer the obnoxiousness Most people aren’t looking to read the news- they’re bored and looking for entertainment. So they LOVE all this crap that autoplays, especially when it queues up more clickbaity crap that sounds more interesting than today’s headlines.

I would say users don’t have a choice. Knowing you can install a blocker as well as how to go about it is a high hurdle.

Just like installing a pop-up blocker in the early 2000s.

So they put up with it. Because it’s the only way to read the article they want on the local TV news site. And they are more about the news about their kid’s school than the weather guy pop-up.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#82

Post by MBCook »

anonymousab wrote: post #76
EduardoBautista wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, if you stop using their website wouldn't it be a good thing for bandwidth heavy sites like YouTube? It's kind of like a restaurant showing you the door and then saying "I didn't want to eat here anyways."

I would be happy to accept denied access to most sites before loading their content. It'd be cool if browsers could send some sort of do not track header, that sites could then use to refuse to serve you any content. Assuming that they actually do want none of those users to consume their content in that way.

They can. Or could. The world chose to ignore the header.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#83

Post by infogulch »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #79
anonymousab wrote: post #74

I've found it amusing that a few news sites disable their atrocious autoplaying videos (and often, the preview window that follows you when you scroll an article) when they detect ad blocking or tracking protection. They're purposely giving me a better experience for blocking, rather than an inferior one. But I guess the metrics must show or are being interpreted to show that most users prefer the obnoxiousness.

> most users prefer the obnoxiousness Most people aren’t looking to read the news- they’re bored and looking for entertainment. So they LOVE all this crap that autoplays, especially when it queues up more clickbaity crap that sounds more interesting than today’s headlines.

> people aren’t looking to X- they’re bored

Wow the way you put this brings so much into focus. All of these apps and websites with awful ux where you can't find anything because you're drowning in a sea of content and shit is constantly flashing in your face... that is the point. People actually want that, for no other reason than its entertainment and it distracts them from their boredom. They're not actually looking for news, or videos, or pictures, or to learn or anything, they're looking for entertainment. And it's not the content that is entraining them -- the content is just an excuse -- it's the app itself that's entertaining them.

News, social media, video sites, photo sites, they're not content platforms at all, they're just a new type of game. That also explains why I can't comprehend the behavior of these sites, because I'm coming to the site to do something completely different from what it was designed to do.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#84

Post by seandougall »

guy98238710 wrote: post #70
tdb7893 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It harms all the industries where the content is ad supported, which is the majority of the Internet right now. For just what I use every day Facebook, Spotify, Google, almost all news, Youtube, Reddit, and xkcd are all add supported. I get why people don't like ads but it's clearly how an absolutely massive portion of the modern Internet is monetized right now

> It harms all the industries where the content is ad supported Nearly all content online is user-generated. The publishers simply rip off contributors, slap ads on their content, and sell the content back to the same public that created it.

This thread is about CBS. Are you saying television is all user-generated content?

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#85

Post by tomxor »

tdb7893 wrote: post #53
pavel_lishin wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> blocking ads will harm the industry Which industry?

It harms all the industries where the content is ad supported, which is the majority of the Internet right now. For just what I use every day Facebook, Spotify, Google, almost all news, Youtube, Reddit, and xkcd are all add supported. I get why people don't like ads but it's clearly how an absolutely massive portion of the modern Internet is monetized right now

> For just what I use every day Facebook, Spotify, Google, almost all news, Youtube, Reddit, and xkcd are all add supported.

Out of all of those xkcd is the only one I like and I don't see any ads on it... The author does writes books though.

> I get why people don't like ads but it's clearly how an absolutely massive portion of the modern Internet is monetized right now

Maybe it just doesn't need to be monetised, everyone who defends intrusive internet ads talks about no alternative - Here is the alternative: If people aren't willing to pay for it, it probably shoudln't be monetised, there are plenty of things on the internet which are free, cost little to run and don't make a profit: search, social networking and video, all decentralisable in an affordable way... they don't need to be monetised, their corporate future is short.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#86

Post by zahrc »

LaPollaNegra wrote: post #30
josteink wrote: post #25

This means that anti-tracking measures are working. This is good news.

Indeed. People need to understand that blocking ads will harm the industry and doom the economy. I’d go as far as banning ad-block users completely from my website.

Seriously, the worst about ads is that they are, even tho we are giving out a lot of our information, not receiving interesting ones.

Instagram and Facebook ads are the worst.

Also: everything on my PC is English, everything. I am using English keywords only. WHY THE FUCK IS STILL EVERY AD IN GERMAN

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

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Post by tomxor »

infogulch wrote: post #83
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> most users prefer the obnoxiousness Most people aren’t looking to read the news- they’re bored and looking for entertainment. So they LOVE all this crap that autoplays, especially when it queues up more clickbaity crap that sounds more interesting than today’s headlines.

> people aren’t looking to X- they’re bored Wow the way you put this brings so much into focus. All of these apps and websites with awful ux where you can't find anything because you're drowning in a sea of content and shit is constantly flashing in your face... that is the point . People actually want that, for no other reason than its entertainment and it distracts them from their boredom. They're not actually look…

Yes, I guess as a long time internet user it can be quite easy to forget that most of the world is still offline, and as more and more people are exposed to the web for the first time, there are masses of naieve eyeballs to exploit, they've yet to acclimatise and grow protective barrier that is aware of the very real possibility that websites you visit are trying to manipulate you.

I wonder what the web will be like after the internet is done spreading and the only new users are young ones... perhaps websites will start behaving more respectfully out of necessity despite any lack of moral standards.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#88

Post by bdcravens »

LaPollaNegra wrote: post #30
josteink wrote: post #25

This means that anti-tracking measures are working. This is good news.

Indeed. People need to understand that blocking ads will harm the industry and doom the economy. I’d go as far as banning ad-block users completely from my website.

The only site I disable ad blocking for is kbb.com (Kelley Blue Book), as it's the only one that restricts that I find valuable enough. If your site is valuable enough, you'll experience the same; if you see fewer visitors after putting such a block in place, that will answer the question for you.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#89

Post by tokai »

infogulch wrote: post #83
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> most users prefer the obnoxiousness Most people aren’t looking to read the news- they’re bored and looking for entertainment. So they LOVE all this crap that autoplays, especially when it queues up more clickbaity crap that sounds more interesting than today’s headlines.

> people aren’t looking to X- they’re bored Wow the way you put this brings so much into focus. All of these apps and websites with awful ux where you can't find anything because you're drowning in a sea of content and shit is constantly flashing in your face... that is the point . People actually want that, for no other reason than its entertainment and it distracts them from their boredom. They're not actually look…

I think calling it entertainment is very flattering. I would call it distraction, or maybe even conditioned response.

Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error

#90

Post by bdcravens »

tdb7893 wrote: post #53
pavel_lishin wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> blocking ads will harm the industry Which industry?

It harms all the industries where the content is ad supported, which is the majority of the Internet right now. For just what I use every day Facebook, Spotify, Google, almost all news, Youtube, Reddit, and xkcd are all add supported. I get why people don't like ads but it's clearly how an absolutely massive portion of the modern Internet is monetized right now

Ads aren't bad. Self-hosted ads often aren't blocked. Self-hosted ads don't spike my CPU either usually, or attempt to install anything. I'm sure the "massive portion of the modern Internet" will evolve towards a more sustainable advertising model. Additionally, the "modern Internet" may need to steal from the credits scene in Dr. Strange: "there are too many websites"
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