> E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?
13.3" at $899. I guess that answers the question.
E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tried it this summer with 13'' Onyx Boox 2 as hdmi display and standalone. Both worked as expected, but somehow getting things done didn't really work well.
Interesting. Nice to know someone has used the 13" Onyx outside for work. Curious - why didn't it work for you?
Not onyx fault: It was just too hot;)
Display is perfect in sun, but contrast not optimal in shade, so I couldn't escape the burn. Next time I try a 20m hdmi cable with normal display set to max in the shade.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
does light have any other intrinsic properties besides spectrum/wavelengths and intensity (EDIT: properties that vary based on the light source alone)? It doesn't matter if it came from a backlight or reflection, the electromagnetic waves are still electromagnetic waves. If the color spectrum is unpleasant, it's possible to use Night Shift or other features to shift the spectrum. If the intensity is unpleasant, just…
This is actually a reply to @Romed: OLED displays have a different problem; they have so much noise at low brightness that the image falls apart. Still, I think a monochrome OLED display is what the person who wrote this article actually wants. It would have better performance in every respect to E-Ink, and it doesn't sound like their application requires E-Ink's low power. My understanding too is that OLEDs can have…
Lcd screens are transparent and selectively block the light from a backlight. They can’t show full black because they can’t completely block the backlight.
Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
This might be one of those situations where things have to move forward imperfectly. First some people get eInk monitors, then OS developers see that there are at least some real users and some concrete reason to believe there's a payoff in supporting them. Then decent software support will encourage more people to get eInk monitors, and that will encourage OS developers to turn decent software support into good soft…
My worry is that E-Ink Monitors will never reach the "minimum quality" point at which they are adopted by a sufficient number of people to get the ball rolling. I don't suffer from any medical reason to use one, but, I would absolutely purchase one this second (any pay a lot for it) if it worked well. Unfortunately, what I've seen so far from the Dasung and the Onyx, isn't worth $800. I just hope these companies have…
What will cause it to be worth $800?
Re: E-Ink Monitors: Ready for Prime Time?
#85If the maximum size is 13.3" as shown here, then no... they are not ready for prime time. That is big for a tablet or e-reader, but small for a laptop, and tiny for something called a monitor (outside of a colo).
they are 4:3 ratio, so for a laptop is more than enough
Well I haven't ever seen a laptop with 4:3 (1024x768?) although I loved my ancient 20" 1280x1024 5:4 monitor and there are lots of smaller 3:2 surface-like laptops. The 13.3" (and the tiny 12) still accounts for only 20% of the 2017 market, with 14.1-15.6 (and even larger) accounting for the remaining 30+50=80%.
This was about the market for Monitors though... not just displays in general so this e-ink display just doesn't cover a significant portion of the market outside of tablets or very small laptops. Typical monitor sizes are 19-34", with the smaller "totable" 15.6-17" sizes accounting for <20% of the market. 13-14" aren't even listed as monitor sizes by the marketing groups like IHS or Display Search.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet you fail to point out the inaccuracies... I'm not moving the goal posts, I'm just clarifying where they were to begin with. You pushed them as far as you could within the wording of my original message, instead of taking the "strongest plausible interpretation" of my original message.
I was very explicit what these inaccuracies are and that they materially affect perception - that's why I gave you examples of actual things rather than concepts. In response, you're telling me lasers are all about about being very red and polarization comes from filters. So, respectfully, I'm suggesting the discussion would make a lot more sense if you just spent five minutes refreshing your understanding of these t…
Please omit the personal swipes from your comment here. We've had to ask you this before.
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#87> It turns out that staring at back-lit computer monitors for 40+ hours a week might not be the best thing for you. Source? Light is still hitting your retinas, whether it comes from reflection or from a backlight. I really enjoy E-Ink displays, but not because of perceived health benefits from reflected light. I enjoy how readable they are under sunlight, how they consume zero energy to show a static image, and how…
I need to wear glasses with my retina display, but not with my e-ink reader. The eyes are definitely doing more work when looking at a backlit display for whatever reason.
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#88I would LOVE if E-Ink monitors became a thing. Spending all day indoors sucks. I'd love to be able to work outside in the sun for an hour or two.
Lenovo has released a Yoga convertible with an E-ink display. https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/windows-tablets/yoga-bo...
Interesting.
Basically two displays: primary IPS and secondary E-ink. But keyboard is… virtual, you type on e-ink.
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#89These would make a great wristwatch, so you can get perpetual display of time with virtually zero power, and should get long battery life.
I believe Nokia/Withings offers a fitness tracker with an eink display with a watchface.
That is correct. Nokia/Withings Steel HR on my hand contains a small, surprisingly fast e-ink display (although low res).
They also have small, barely noticeable LED lights lighting the screen to be visible during night. Much more pleasant way of checking the time during the night than looking at a phone. And its battery lasts 2-3 weeks and charges in two hours.
The screen isn't always on though, and only activates on a click from the side.
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#90> It turns out that staring at back-lit computer monitors for 40+ hours a week might not be the best thing for you. Source? Light is still hitting your retinas, whether it comes from reflection or from a backlight. I really enjoy E-Ink displays, but not because of perceived health benefits from reflected light. I enjoy how readable they are under sunlight, how they consume zero energy to show a static image, and how…
I need to wear glasses with my retina display, but not with my e-ink reader. The eyes are definitely doing more work when looking at a backlit display for whatever reason.
Same distance, same text size, and same font?