Introducing Cloudflare Registrar • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by dcbadacd » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:01 PM UTC

kijeda wrote: post #68

edent wrote: post #64

Interesting. Wonder if they'll support punycode domains - either for internationalisation or for emoji. I tried to get a .中国 domain, bet fell afoul of the "unique" restrictions that my reseller encountered.

.中国 is the country-code top-level domain for China, and has its own set of country-specific rules that they have devised. Emoji is illegal according to the IETF IDN specification. Some naive clients allow it (i.e. don't follow the standard) but ICANN rules prohibit registries allowing registration of labels that are disallowed by the standard.

If you convert unicode to punycode it's fine? So displaying punycode TLD as unicode is fine as well? If all previous has been true then unicode being displayed as unicode can't be wrong.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by jwr » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:02 PM UTC

I don't care much about the price, but if Cloudflare can operate a domain registrar that doesn't suck, it will be enough for me to move. All domain registrars I tried universally sucked, some less than others, but still.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by jazoom » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:03 PM UTC

nickjj wrote: post #72

rk249 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I though namecheap was one of the better ones around? I'm looking for a domain registrar. Could share the link with namecheap horror stories? Thanks

I'd say give namesilo.com a shot. $8.99 .coms as a base price, free whois guard for life, solid support and no up-sell spam or BS. I moved almost all of my domains there over the last year'ish.

Everything about Namesilo is perfect except their terrible website. That's a downside I can live with. I also highly recommend them.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by profmonocle » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:05 PM UTC

Ayesh wrote: post #66

LakeAustin wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We'll support 224 TLDs at launch! Full list here: https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/ And you'll be able to redact your personal information from Whois with us, too.

This is a pretty extensive TLD List, specially considering CloudFlare has to directly deal with the registries than being a reseller of some commercial registrar (like enom).

Most of them are from Donuts, who have a huge number of TLDs. In fact, looks like the only non-Donuts domains are com, net, org, and info, so only four registries.

It's not surprising, dealing with all the various registries (especially for ccTLDs) is probably one of the harder things to scale when spinning up a new registrar. Even Amazon Route53 uses resellers for some TLDs.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by zackbloom » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:08 PM UTC

andreygrehov wrote: post #78

Security wise, are you on par with MarkMonitor?

Our Custom Domain Protection is even more secure than MarkMonitor, but the overhead of doing that also makes it almost as expensive. Our at-cost standard domain service includes as much security as we can build into it without a large human component being required (2fa, etc.).

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:11 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

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Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by GordonS » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:15 PM UTC

WordSkill wrote: post #38

LakeAustin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We want to help you consolidate those! Full list here for TLDs supported at launch, but we're busy working to add more before then. https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/

I second the request for the .UK TLDs.

Uh, uk just feels like a scam! I mean, what is the point, other than to extort existing .co.uk owners?

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by technion » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:16 PM UTC

mariushn wrote: post #48

What about email hosting? Gandi includes 5 email accounts with every registration, while most other registrars charge for each account. Email is a basic need.

The POP and IMAP mail services most registrars throw in are services Internet users would be better off without.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by SethKinast » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:18 PM UTC

LakeAustin wrote: post #9

r1ch wrote: post #4

This sounds great. Hopefully the TLD coverage is extensive, I dislike having my domains split across multiple registrars based on their supported extensions.

We want to help you consolidate those! Full list here for TLDs supported at launch, but we're busy working to add more before then. https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/

No .st so that domain will have to stay stranded at Gandi :P

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by forapurpose » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:20 PM UTC

The registration cost for domains is trivial (for most common TLDs): $8/year or $35/year - how much is $27/year worth to you and your company?

The primary cost for domains is potential downtime. How much does a day of downtime cost you and your company? I don't want to think about it either.

The next most significant cost is labor - your time and your business' delays when dealing with the registrar over service and support issues.

Both of these problems are solved with available, responsive, highly effective support. If it goes down, you want to reach someone right away who has the skill to quickly solve the problem and who is empowered to do whatever is necessary to bring it back up. And for lesser issues, quality support means you spend less time solving problems, which not only saves you time and frustration but reduces delays for your work that depends on the problem, and for other people depending on you and people depending on those people. It's the difference between spending days trying to communicate with someone who turns out not to understand the technology anyway, and then you have to figure out a solution yourself and coax them into implementing it, and communicating with someone who answers immediately and says 'I got it', explains the tech to you - and you don't bother to remember it because they already know it.

I don't see support, the most important capability of a registrar (besides basic competence) IMHO, mentioned in Cloudflare's announcement. What is the support story?

EDIT: Added exposition